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sowaxeman 03-07-2006 10:59 AM

How to tell if its A Real Saleen & Whats It Worth??
 
If you are new to this thread....PLEASE READ THIS POST FIRST before posting!!

PLEASE do not send me a PM as I don't get them. There are several folks in this thread that will respond and help you out.

Are you looking at a Saleen, or even own one and not sure if its the real deal [&:] If it is a 1985 - 2003 its very simple. Post the VIN as well as the bumper/firewall/console ID number (these should ALL exist and match as your first hint). Also tell us if its hatch, coupe, or convertable. If you do not have both numbers, please get them before posting! PLEASE DO NOT ASK US to tell you what the VIN should be or what the Saleen Serial# should be, or to lookup a car by only giving us a VIN.....the registry is VERY large and looking through pages of 4pt font is NOT any fun [8D]

If its a 1984, forget about it. There were only 3 made in '84 and same guy owns all 3 of them here in Indy. If its a 2004+ then you'll have to call Saleen as the book was published after the '03 model year.

There are SEVERAL of us in here with the ever popular and handy Saleen Book & Registry. A simple check on our end can verify if its real or not. If you don't get a timely response (this means a day or two, not hours ;)) feel free to email me at sowaxeman@jdsaleen.com Please do not start a separate post about your car because we don't answer right away, if you are in a pinch them PM one of guys in this thread. Otherwise it will get answered by one of the few of us that keep up on this thread.

DO NOT ASK US TO TELL YOU HOW MANY WERE MADE based on your color or options. The Saleen Book/Registry does not keep track of this information. This is all on file at Saleen by contacting Team Saleen and getting a "Letter of Authenticity".

If you want to know what its WORTH - then go to www.nada.com and select Consumer, then Classic Cars, then Sports Cars, then Saleen. You can ask us all you want, but we use Nada as a guideline and add our opinions [8D]

Hope this helps and frees up a few duplicate posts ;)

SaleenTech 03-07-2006 10:04 PM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
Rather than bothering Liz over at Team Saleen, if you have an '04 or newer car, send an email to techline@saleen.com with the VIN and bumper #. We can quickily tell if the car is real or not.

macg4321 05-04-2006 10:50 PM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
Im thinking about picking up a used 97 Saleen S281. Saleen This is a link to some pictures of it. Some things I wanted to find out were A) Is it real? The VIN number is 1falp42x6vf101886 and it is #13. B) Im pretty sure they didnt but the kid says it came factory with a Vortech blower on it, is that true? and C) Can anyone tell by those pics if that is the factory interior for the car. Thank you very much for the help.

Mike

sowaxeman 05-05-2006 11:20 AM

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I sent you an email last night. The car is legit - in that the VIN ending in 886 matches 97-013. However, according to the book/saleen registry there is nothing about sc'd 281's until 1999 or 2000 - so I highly doubt that Vortech is Saleen stock. Unless of course it was some sort of promo car or employees car.

Also, the interior looks stock with the exception of the custom red accents on the seats. I don't believe that is stock Saleen.

According to NADA a stock, mint 97 S281 should command $18K at its highest value. I don't consider 43K miles to be a highest value car, maybe more like $15k which just falls below the AVERAGE mark. A car like this that has been modded will always be worth more in the sellers eyes - but in reality I would not give more than $15K for it. It should only have 220hp stock at the flywheel (thats all a S281 was back then) and he is claiming over 375 to the wheel or 400+ with a 104 race tune [&:] IMO thats way too much power than that 2V was built to handle.

I'd be worried about the longevity, not to mention the CURRENT status of the internals [&:][&:][&:]

macg4321 05-06-2006 04:04 AM

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Thank you for your reply, I very much appreciate your insight on the situation. After reading I dont think that is really the car for me

Thanks,
Mike

2004 #243 05-20-2006 06:13 PM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
Can you guys help me determine if the one I am looking at buying is an extreme? If nothing else I will call on Monday and talk to Liz, but I am looking at buying this weekend.

1fafp45x04f227121 Saleen #243 as my screen name implys.

Thanks in advance,

Adam

sowaxeman 05-31-2006 12:48 PM

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Sorry Adam - I missed this one last week. I'll look it up tonight and see what I can find out for you.

2004 #243 05-31-2006 05:27 PM

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Thank you.

sowaxeman 05-31-2006 07:48 PM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
Oops - sorry about that, the Saleen book is only current through 2003. You'll need to email your information to techline@saleen.com as mentioned above for 2004+

2004 #243 06-01-2006 12:24 AM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
Gotcha. Thank you much!

ExtremeSaleen 06-01-2006 04:18 AM

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Since E cars had their own sequence, it is highly unlikely that a car with a number as high as #243 would be an extreme. Not that it couldn't happen, but I doubt it. There were about 4 or 5 built in 2004 so you'd be looking at a low number.

02SaleenS281SC#619 06-09-2006 11:35 AM

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I'd like to know if my Saleen is real. I'm sure it is because it has a lot of Saleen parts. But over the last few days, I've seen a lot of stuff on ebay that could lead me to believe my car could be fake. Please anyone let me know. Thanks.

2002 White Saleen Convertible S281 Super Charged #02-0619

Any help with the specs of this car would greatly be appreciated too. I have been told that it has 445HP for the 02 Supercharged Saleens. LMK. Thanks.

sowaxeman 06-12-2006 01:10 PM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
Well, first off it does NOT have 445 stock HP. It was 350 I believe for a '02 SC. Have you had it dyno'd to see what it does, because unless the bottom end of the motor has been forged then 445 is a little dangerous on the stock 4.6 2v motor IMO.

We need to know the last 3 digits of your VIN to verify if its real or not.

02SaleenS281SC#619 06-30-2006 02:25 PM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
I don't remember my VIN right off hand but I'm pretty sure the last three digits are 388 or 338. I know it's something like that. :D

96opt248a 07-26-2006 09:11 AM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
Hi, just joined mustangforums today. Thanks for posting this. I'm interested in a 2003 S281SC Hollywood Edition coupe. Don't care about the H.E. thing, but this car is gorgeous. I believe it's a real Saleen, but just want to make sure before I decide to buy it. :-)

Here's what I have:

VIN - 1FAFP42X33F345277
ID# - 03-0270 (270 is on bumper)
MFG date - 04/03

Not sure what console number you mean? I ckecked the VIN and it's an '03 for sure. :-) It has been repainted. There were some cracks in the hood paint near the vents, so Saleen replaced the hood and repainted it, but then it didn't match the fenders, so then they repainted the fenders and those didn't match the doors, so the entire car was repainted, under warranty.

Nada says it's worth $31k something. The seller is willing to bargain a little. He's offering it for $29k as it is. I was thinking of offering him $28k. What do you think? It's the most beautiful red I've ever seen!!! He said Saleen's paint was much better than Ford's. I haven't seen the car in person, but I'm trying to get somebody in the Orange County California area to go and look at the car for me. Any takers??? LOL I'm in Sweden until Sept 6th.

Or maybe I should just scrap it and buy an '04 Cobra? ;-)

So is it real???? Thanks, sowaxeman!!

Cindy



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ORIGINAL: sowaxeman

Ok, since its been asked alot lately - maybe our mod can make this a sticky ;)

Are you looking at a Saleen, or even own one and not sure if its the real deal [&:] If it is a 1985 - 2003 its very simple. Post the VIN as well as the bumper/firewall/console ID number (these should ALL exist and match as your first hint). Also tell us if its hatch, coupe, or convertable.

If its a 1984, forget about it. There were only 3 made in '84 and same guy owns all 3 of them here in Indy. If its a 2004-6 then you'll have to call Liz Summar at Team Saleen as the book was published after the '03 model year.

There are SEVERAL of us in here with the ever popular and handy Saleen Book & Registry. A simple check on our end can verify if its real or not. If you don't get a timely response (this means a day or two, not hours ;)) feel free to PM me.

If you want to know what its WORTH - then go to www.nada.com and select Consumer, then Classic Cars, then Sports Cars, then Saleen.

Hope this helps and frees up a few duplicate posts ;)

S281SC 07-26-2006 10:05 AM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
03-270 has a last 3 VIn of 277, so that matches. It is a coupe, shipped on 4/21/03. Options were Supercharger & 13" brakes. The Saleen book does NOT show this as being a Hollywood Horsepower edition, although several cars around it were...

S281SC 07-26-2006 10:09 AM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
02-619 has a last 3 VIn of 388. It's a convertible, shipped on 5/03/02. Options were Supercharger, Chrome wheels, Light Bar, and a black convertible top. 2002's used the Series II M90 supercharger, and were factory rated at 365 HP.

sowaxeman 07-27-2006 07:53 PM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
Thanks for the knowledge there S281SC :) I'm out of town at a FULL WEEK training (snore.....snore....snore) so I am without my bible [8D]

ClintB 07-28-2006 02:06 AM

RE: The Unofficial, Official How Tell If Its A Real Saleen Post
 
Hello, I am thinking of buying a 2001 Saleen convertable but not sure if it is legit or not. I have the VIN: 1fafp45x91f209910 and would like any insight you folks may have on the subject. I.E. what to look for when inspecting this vehicle. The car is located in Canada. Where can I find the value of this vehicle. I looked at Nada.com under "sports cars" and the Saleen mustang was not available for 2001? Help, I need this info soon. thanks

S281SC 07-28-2006 10:08 AM

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What's the Saleen # off the car?


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