An Unfortunate Torque in the Road...
08-24-2007, 06:59 PM
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RE: An Unfortunate Torque in the Road...
ORIGINAL: 06Saleen3V
No in Virginia, you have to be at least 20mph over for the $3000 fine...she was only 16mph over
No in Virginia, you have to be at least 20mph over for the $3000 fine...she was only 16mph over
Jazzer on what NWA was talkin' 'bout!
08-25-2007, 08:59 AM
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RE: An Unfortunate Torque in the Road...
ORIGINAL: AmyVCTexas
Just a little update following yesterday's pre-trial hearing on my speeding + no front plate tickets.
Just a refresher: received ticket while coming out of a toll booth from a dead stop (to throw 3 quarters in the basket -- I have no hand-eye coordination [8D]). Toll road speed limit is 60, except for "grace area" before and after booth, which is 45. Nabbed for going 61 in a 45 when leaving the booth. And just for grins, Officer Fife threw in a "no front license plate" charge as well.
Here were my options:
1. Plead NO CONTEST, take 3 months deferred adjudication and pay $220. License plate charge will be dropped
2. Plead NO CONTEST, take Defensive Driving ($25 cost) and pay $103. License plate charge will be dropped
3. Go to court on October 10 (Jury Trial). If I win, all charges dropped. If I lose, approx $7 zillion in fines, plus points on my license, resulting in higher insurance rates
4. Same as Option 3, but Judge Trial on October 4
Soooooo.... inquiring minds want to know: What Would You Do?
Just a little update following yesterday's pre-trial hearing on my speeding + no front plate tickets.
Just a refresher: received ticket while coming out of a toll booth from a dead stop (to throw 3 quarters in the basket -- I have no hand-eye coordination [8D]). Toll road speed limit is 60, except for "grace area" before and after booth, which is 45. Nabbed for going 61 in a 45 when leaving the booth. And just for grins, Officer Fife threw in a "no front license plate" charge as well.
Here were my options:
1. Plead NO CONTEST, take 3 months deferred adjudication and pay $220. License plate charge will be dropped
2. Plead NO CONTEST, take Defensive Driving ($25 cost) and pay $103. License plate charge will be dropped
3. Go to court on October 10 (Jury Trial). If I win, all charges dropped. If I lose, approx $7 zillion in fines, plus points on my license, resulting in higher insurance rates
4. Same as Option 3, but Judge Trial on October 4
Soooooo.... inquiring minds want to know: What Would You Do?
Bummer is, I think the "grace area" is probably too subjective by most persons standards, so a jury would probably see this portion of ticket as petty and find you innocent of this charge.
Judge Jazzer
08-25-2007, 09:22 AM
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RE: An Unfortunate Torque in the Road...
ORIGINAL: Jazzer The Cat
I, like the Polkster, like option 2. Does this mean that they will NO LONGER require a front plate on your car??????? Seems hard to believe. Or is there a fine associated with plate missing, and you will get out of paying that?
Bummer is, I think the "grace area" is probably too subjective by most persons standards, so a jury would probably see this portion of ticket as petty and find you innocent of this charge.
Judge Jazzer
ORIGINAL: AmyVCTexas
Just a little update following yesterday's pre-trial hearing on my speeding + no front plate tickets.
Just a refresher: received ticket while coming out of a toll booth from a dead stop (to throw 3 quarters in the basket -- I have no hand-eye coordination [8D]). Toll road speed limit is 60, except for "grace area" before and after booth, which is 45. Nabbed for going 61 in a 45 when leaving the booth. And just for grins, Officer Fife threw in a "no front license plate" charge as well.
Here were my options:
1. Plead NO CONTEST, take 3 months deferred adjudication and pay $220. License plate charge will be dropped
2. Plead NO CONTEST, take Defensive Driving ($25 cost) and pay $103. License plate charge will be dropped
3. Go to court on October 10 (Jury Trial). If I win, all charges dropped. If I lose, approx $7 zillion in fines, plus points on my license, resulting in higher insurance rates
4. Same as Option 3, but Judge Trial on October 4
Soooooo.... inquiring minds want to know: What Would You Do?
Just a little update following yesterday's pre-trial hearing on my speeding + no front plate tickets.
Just a refresher: received ticket while coming out of a toll booth from a dead stop (to throw 3 quarters in the basket -- I have no hand-eye coordination [8D]). Toll road speed limit is 60, except for "grace area" before and after booth, which is 45. Nabbed for going 61 in a 45 when leaving the booth. And just for grins, Officer Fife threw in a "no front license plate" charge as well.
Here were my options:
1. Plead NO CONTEST, take 3 months deferred adjudication and pay $220. License plate charge will be dropped
2. Plead NO CONTEST, take Defensive Driving ($25 cost) and pay $103. License plate charge will be dropped
3. Go to court on October 10 (Jury Trial). If I win, all charges dropped. If I lose, approx $7 zillion in fines, plus points on my license, resulting in higher insurance rates
4. Same as Option 3, but Judge Trial on October 4
Soooooo.... inquiring minds want to know: What Would You Do?
Bummer is, I think the "grace area" is probably too subjective by most persons standards, so a jury would probably see this portion of ticket as petty and find you innocent of this charge.
Judge Jazzer
It's a bit disgruntling, as I believe a jury would probably side with me on both counts. But I do remember sitting in for jury duty a few years back and the question was: Would you be able to find someone guilty of breaking the law even if you didn't agree with the law?? And fact is, I WAS guilty of breaking the law. Soooo.... decided not to risk it and took option 2. BTW the jury duty thing was a case against an 18 year old country kid whose gf lied about her age and turns out she was only 15. Parents sued for statuatory rape. If found guilty, he would have been labeled a "sexual predator" for the rest of his life. THANK GOD they gave me the boot and I didn't have to serve on that jury. In fact they couldn't find 13 people so the trial was dismissed.
Jazzer: they simply dropped the charge against me for no plate. Still must have it legally, though it will be coming off this weekend [8D]. Word is, they can't pull you over for no plate only, but can add that charge to anything else they might nab you for.
And... yes it's true, no hand-eye. I'm more of a "balance and feel" type person. Much better traits to have in the dark.
(there you go Chuck -- one for you). 
08-27-2007, 12:57 PM
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RE: An Unfortunate Torque in the Road...
ORIGINAL: AmyVCTexas
Word is, they can't pull you over for no plate only, but can add that charge to anything else they might nab you for.
Word is, they can't pull you over for no plate only, but can add that charge to anything else they might nab you for.
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