Why no paint under hood?

[eviligloo]

ORIGINAL: desant89 I am very comfortable with what he told me. Do I agree with it, no, but I barely got it out of my mouth, and he told me immediately why it was not painted. He did explain in detail too. I am forgetting some of it because I had Warranty on my other ear, and the warranty guy was asking for my VIN# etc. I wanted to see what both said. The regional guy knew his stuff. Also, I just did a search on Ebay to look at some pics of 2006 GT's. I can tell you that all GT's have the hood painted underneath form Ford. That meansSaleen actually painted mine black. If you read up on the Saleen documentation, they require a certain color from Ford first to then paint the car a custom color. The color when doing Lizstick red was some kind of Ford red first. This means they painted it Black under there. He did say the paint is extremely expensive, and it is like a 4 step process. I am sure if they do a lot of them, just one coating it with Black saves them a a decent amount of money on supplies, but much more in Labor. Let's not forget a hood would take a nice bit of paint. I am no painter, but it does have a lot of surface area. It might just be that black is the base coat for Lizstick and so they painted the entire car black and then did the 4 step process on everything else.

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[dramsey]

It might just be that black is the base coat for Lizstick and so they painted the entire car black and then did the 4 step process on everything else.Â*

Interesting idea, but no. Translucent red over a black base coat would be kinda...dark. The base for Liztick Red is silver.

[desant89]

Do a search for 2006 Saleen specifications on google. First hit will be a PDF. It tells you that for Saleen to paint the car Lizstick red, the base color (from Ford) must be Redfire. That document will show you what each custom Saleen does requires from Ford as a starting point.

[dramsey]

I found the document, and so it does. The only problem is that that my Liztick Red car was Grabber Orange when Ford delivered it. Maybe they changed things for the 2007 model year.

I'm not sure why the Ford color would matter one way or the other, really. When I said "the base for Liztick Red is silver", I meant the car is initially painted with a silver base coat, not that they require a silver factory paint job.

[eviligloo]

ORIGINAL: dramsey

I found the document, and so it does. The only problem is that that my Liztick Red car was Grabber Orange when Ford delivered it. Maybe they changed things for the 2007 model year.

I'm not sure why the Ford color would matter one way or the other, really. When I said "the base for Liztick Red is silver", I meant the car is initially painted with a silver base coat, not that they require a silver factory paint job.

That's right...I remember seeing silver as the base coat somewhere (probably from a post from you awhile ago!). [sm=oopssign.gif]

[127shtry127]

The black is likely e-coat and is the standard coating used in automotive for corrosion protection. Part of the process includes a zinc phosphate coating. E-coat also is what the paint primeradheres to better. There are different colors of e-coat however Saleen chooses to use black. You may want to be careful about leaving the hood open on sunny days as e-coat is not UV stable and will turn a chalky color if it is indeed e-coat. I agree with others about first painting black before going to red. Usually you would lean towards a reddish primer to get good hiding with the base coat. I also believe the Lizstick color is obtained by painting the car silver and using a red tinited clear coat over the top. Beryllium is done the same way but with an orange tinted clear coat.

[nrcollectibles]

If you look at the early literature (2005 and earlier), Saleen used to say that the Extreme Rainbow paint option required a black car from Ford. My VIN indicated that my car was originally a silver car. I could never figure that one out.

[desant89]

127shtry127

I think you are right. It is probably e-coat. It is definitely not a regular black paint under there. Holds dirt too. I actually cleaned it up under there for the first time today. It got dusty during the shipping on the truck.