Tork Tech/Chicane Intercooler Install - Page 4

eviligloo · 07-08-2009, 01:34 PM

Just a follow up. Here's a better picture of the engine bay so you can see what everything looks like. The ridge that was cut out of the firewall in the back to make the kit fit isn't visible. It's under the hose in the back. All of it blends in, so it's not noticeable unless I were to point it out.

And here's a quick video of what everything sounds like. I just punched it really quickly (not full on). Supercharger is definitely louder (because you're taking in more air). if you watch closely you can see the boost gauge jump really quickly on the left. I'll get a better video sometime soon.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...ies_694369.htm

This ad is not displayed to registered or logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Mustang Forums!

red347 · 07-08-2009, 01:53 PM

So what were the actual power gains compared to stock?

sycho · 07-08-2009, 04:01 PM

sounds like a cobra now!!!

04#231 · 07-14-2009, 08:29 PM

Hye Evil, look slike things finaly worked out for you and the car looks and sounds great. Sycho is right when he says it sounds like a Cobra now. Very nice. With all you went through and the issues would you do it again? I wonder how this would work on an 04 car? Would we still have the same fitment issues etc? Anyway glad to see its running and running hard.

Peace.

eviligloo · 07-15-2009, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red347

So what were the actual power gains compared to stock?

Check the dyno sheet for the gains from a "before/after" standpoint. My car had several upgrades done before this one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04#231

I wonder how this would work on an 04 car?

I don't think it would work on an 04 car. The reason this works on a 2002 is because the M112 and the M90 eatons have the same bolt pattern on the back of the supercharger. The 04 is a lysholm S/C. Tork Tech could answer the question for sure.

Then again.....the lysholm is a better blower that gives off less heat (and you can fit a JLT CAI)....so you can't feel TOO bad!

Everyone will probably have the same fitment issues that I have. The kit was originally designed to fit onto an M112 blower. The M112 blowers are longer and typically sit farther forward in the engine bay....so there's no clearance issue on the back. If I had gone with the full kit and converted to a magnuson M112 blower instead of the stock M90 then I would have had to ditch my hood (and spent even MORE money). Also....I'd still be just as limited by stock internals.

Would I do it over again? Well let me give some people some stats first as to how much it actually ended up costing.

Tork Tech Kit (with oval T/B and filter): $1200
Lightning MAF: $90
Chicane Intercooler: $750
42lb injectors (used): $180
Installation, tuning, cutting into firewall, misc supplies: $1800
Total: ~$4020

I figured it was going to cost $4k, so it was pretty close to the budget.

So finally....would I do it over again? Can't answer that one yet because I think my boost actuator is bad. I get gradual boost instead of instant boost at the moment.....so I still don't know what the car is capable of yet. The part should come in next week.

Werecow · 07-18-2009, 10:28 AM

So, if I understand this correctly, I can use the 03/04 Cobra inlet pipe and it will directly bolt to the back of my M90s? Would I have the same clearance issues with the fireall that you experienced, if I use my stock lower intake manifold? Would this change my throttle-pedal height as well?

Great write up!

eviligloo · 07-19-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werecow

So, if I understand this correctly, I can use the 03/04 Cobra inlet pipe and it will directly bolt to the back of my M90s? Would I have the same clearance issues with the fireall that you experienced, if I use my stock lower intake manifold? Would this change my throttle-pedal height as well?

Great write up!

The tork tech kit does change the pedal height because you have to use a cobra throttle cable. so the pedal sits much lower....but you get used to it pretty quickly.

I don't think a cobra inlet would fit. It would probably bolt up to the back, but the biggest problem is clearance behind the supercharger. The M112 sits farther up in the engine bay while the M90 sits closer to the firewall. Just looking at the cobra inlet i seriously doubt that would have enough clearance in the back on a saleen. Like I mentioned earlier...I had to cut out a little firewall just to get the tork tech to fit. The cobra one looks even deeper and more rounded in the back.

You could try...but my guess is that you'd be very disappointed.

eviligloo · 08-03-2009, 10:48 AM

Now that I replaced my boost actuator that has been going bad I figured I'd update this thread and give some final impressions.

The car feels excellent. The torque is noticeable...especially in the higher RPM's where my car used to fall completely flat. If I shift it into second gear and gun it the boost jumps up to 6 or so then builds. When we did the latest dyno run the boost maxed out at around 12-13psi at about 6500 RPM's. I don't take my car past redline on the street....so I'll probably never get to that point.

The chicane intercooler portion of the install was definitely worth it. We did 4 dyno runs in 90 degree heat this past week and my intercooler temperatures never went above 130 (worth noting: I also have the LFP Heat Exchanger and supertank). At first my tech thought the temperature sensor was bad...but he measured the intercooler temp with a thermometer and sure enough it was working correctly.

The price might be a deterrent for some people. Tork Tech quoted 10 hours to do the install...but I'm not sure that's really the case. A lot of people would just scrap it all and go whipple or kenne bell. If you want to keep the stock blower, though....this is definitely a good way to do it. An added bonus would be the single blade oval throttle body which gives you a great response.

I'm forwarding this link to my shop. If he gets a chance he might weigh in as to whether he thinks it's worth it or what other alternatives would be better. I asked him to be honest about the Intercooler and the Tork Tech intake and whether he thinks they're worth it or not for the money and whether they're good quality. Either way I'm a big fan of both mods.

One last note...anyone interested in getting the tork tech setup installed, Woodbine Motorsports in MD has one under their belt! Go there to save yourself plenty of hassle. JJ is great.

JJ@WMS · 08-03-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eviligloo

Now that I replaced my boost actuator that has been going bad I figured I'd update this thread and give some final impressions.

The car feels excellent. The torque is noticeable...especially in the higher RPM's where my car used to fall completely flat. If I shift it into second gear and gun it the boost jumps up to 6 or so then builds. When we did the latest dyno run the boost maxed out at around 12-13psi at about 6500 RPM's. I don't take my car past redline on the street....so I'll probably never get to that point.

The chicane intercooler portion of the install was definitely worth it. We did 4 dyno runs in 90 degree heat this past week and my intercooler temperatures never went above 130 (worth noting: I also have the LFP Heat Exchanger and supertank). At first my tech thought the temperature sensor was bad...but he measured the intercooler temp with a thermometer and sure enough it was working correctly.

The price might be a deterrent for some people. Tork Tech quoted 10 hours to do the install...but I'm not sure that's really the case. A lot of people would just scrap it all and go whipple or kenne bell. If you want to keep the stock blower, though....this is definitely a good way to do it. An added bonus would be the single blade oval throttle body which gives you a great response.

I'm forwarding this link to my shop. If he gets a chance he might weigh in as to whether he thinks it's worth it or what other alternatives would be better. I asked him to be honest about the Intercooler and the Tork Tech intake and whether he thinks they're worth it or not for the money and whether they're good quality. Either way I'm a big fan of both mods.

One last note...anyone interested in getting the tork tech setup installed, Woodbine Motorsports in MD has one under their belt! Go there to save yourself plenty of hassle. JJ is great.

Thanks Chris, I do appreciate the kind words and support. I strive to make sure that everyone leaves here happy and satisfied that the money spent was well worth it. We take great pride in knowing that when you lift up your hood and show others the work done is top notch and reflects my personal feeling that it should be the best it can be.

As for the products I am most impressed by the intercooler first and the inlet second. Fitment on your car was tight for sure and the extra firewall work was not expected but needed. Overall I think the parts and work done were well worth the money spent. It does sound and feel like an 03-04 Cobra now and will suprise quite a few vehicles.

I think your money was well spent and I think if Saleen were to build that same car today they would have used or designed similar parts. Thanks God that cheap plastic intake is gone. LOL you need to post pics of that for sure.

JJ@WMS

2FNFAST · 08-09-2009, 02:41 PM

Been watching here for awhile, finally registered. I've been down this whole road myself, and am working with JJ on tuning myne mail order style. Figured I'd throw up some pics of my install, I opted to move the vacuum hoses in the inlet, rather than cut up my firewall. Also don't mind the breather on my intake tube, the hole is sealed shut, i just didn't have a plug to cover it to make it pretty so i slapped the breather over it for looks for now... (rice, yes i know

) anyways, im still working on getting a good datalog with a wideband to send back, but it definately is a worthwhile upgrade.

Im running a ported m90, 2.7 pulley, lightly home ported manifold, tork tech inlet/t-body kit, sealed intercooler, afco exchanger, 42lb injectors, 90mm maf, kenne bell boost-a-pump, seeing about 10-11 pounds.