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Old 05-05-2009, 12:04 AM   #1
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Does anyone know who OEM's the mufflers on the Parnelli Jones edition Mustang?
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:47 AM   #2
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Thanks Red. Do you know if it's a fairly decent exhaust in terms of performance and sound? I like how it's painted black. The only two mufflers I know that comes in black is the Saleen PJ muffler and the Flowmaster American Thunder muffler. I want to keep everything on my car black. Also I'm looking for that old school muscle car sound. But from what I've read it seems that's not easily possible with the 3 valve modular V8's.



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Thanks Red. Do you know if it's a fairly decent exhaust in terms of performance and sound? I like how it's painted black. The only two mufflers I know that comes in black is the Saleen PJ muffler and the Flowmaster American Thunder muffler. I want to keep everything on my car black. Also I'm looking for that old school muscle car sound. But from what I've read it seems that's not easily possible with the 3 valve modular V8's.
ever heard a car with frpp cams?
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ever heard a car with frpp cams?

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I don't know, it sounds pretty awesome, but the PJs sound came from the cams and such mostly. Honestly, most cat back exhausts sound the same to me. I would say 90% of most "sound" talk is exageration (unless you have some stupid glass packs or something). Your not gonna hear a lot of differance until you start switching headers and mid pipes.
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^+1. Gone through a couple of different exhuast setups and the biggest sound "makers" were force induction (Obviously), midpipes, and headers.
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I don't know, it sounds pretty awesome, but the PJs sound came from the cams and such mostly. Honestly, most cat back exhausts sound the same to me. I would say 90% of most "sound" talk is exageration (unless you have some stupid glass packs or something). Your not gonna hear a lot of differance until you start switching headers and mid pipes.
I kind of figured the sound from the PJ must have been more than just mufflers. I know headers and midpipes make a big difference. Too bad I live in California. Can't run long tubes here or change out midpipes legally.
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I kind of figured the sound from the PJ must have been more than just mufflers. I know headers and midpipes make a big difference. Too bad I live in California. Can't run long tubes here or change out midpipes legally.
sure you can, ford racing makes 50 state legal shorty headers as do some other manufacturers. You can also get catted mid pipes that will pass.
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sure you can, ford racing makes 50 state legal shorty headers as do some other manufacturers. You can also get catted mid pipes that will pass.
Isn't there a law about not replacing cats with anything other than OEM?

"New catalytic converters sold or installed in CA must be designed to meet the following requirements:
1. Must be an OE replacement only - no "high flow" or performance cats
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Briefly, this means that you are now required to obtain a new ARB-exempt catalytic converter for your specific vehicle if you require a replacement. The street use of aftermarket performance "high flow" units and aftermarket mid-pipes with non-exempt cats is not legal in CA. For more information on this legislation, visit: http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermktcat/aftermktcat.htm

The catalytic converter plays a major role in the emissions reduction of a motor vehicle. The vehicle manufacturer has matched a specific catalytic converter to the vehicle to minimize emissions output. Both CARB and the EPA do not allow the replacement of a catalytic converter with non-exempt "high flow" performance replacement unit. In fact, it is technically not legal to even replace a converter unless it has been proven by technician to have failed, and then it can only be replaced with an exempt OEM equivalent unit. (However, enforcement of this requirement is difficult and is the primary loop-hole that allows the usage of so-called "high flow" catalytic converters. Many of these units are sold with the disclaimer as being a "race" component and are not intended for street use.) Due to the hundreds of vehicle models produced over the years, it is virtually impossible to determine by glancing under a car whether the converter is the original unit, a legal OEM replacement, or a non-legal aftermarket "high flow" performance unit. However, changing regulations require imprinting the exemption number, manufacturer code, and manufacture date, making it easier for technicians to determine the origin of the product and the intended application."
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