Factory Roush vs. Roush Clone--Buyer Beware?
03-28-2014, 04:36 AM
#121
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There are collectors that will pay a fortune just to be able to say that they have an "original whatever". I can't see an "original" car that came of a production line as being like an original, handmade "one off" painting or sculpture. A restored '61 Fuel Injected Corvette put together from original pieces has all the same characteristics as the original car simply without the original bill of sale documentation. I "only" love a car because of its characteristics, not because it is the original production model, but it's different strokes for different folks. For some folks having the "original" production '61 Corvette is worth five times as much or more even if it is the same in all characteristics. I don't mean to criticize those people's values, because everyone should get to enjoy what they like. They are just not my values!
Example of my thinking: Here's a clone of a Colt 44 Special I shoot. It is made better than the original, but looks and shoots as good or better because of hidden improvements like springs and improved steel. The best thing is that it is only a fraction of the cost of an original so I can afford to own it and not worry about taking it out in the desert and shooting it. Original Colts don't hold up as well! I have a lifelong gun buddy who owns original Colts, but when we shoot at Jackrabbits he brings along his clone Colts!
Example of my thinking: Here's a clone of a Colt 44 Special I shoot. It is made better than the original, but looks and shoots as good or better because of hidden improvements like springs and improved steel. The best thing is that it is only a fraction of the cost of an original so I can afford to own it and not worry about taking it out in the desert and shooting it. Original Colts don't hold up as well! I have a lifelong gun buddy who owns original Colts, but when we shoot at Jackrabbits he brings along his clone Colts!
Last edited by Mr. D; 03-28-2014 at 04:46 AM.
03-28-2014, 04:46 AM
#122
There are collectors that will pay a fortune just to be able to say that they have an "original whatever". I can't see an "original" car that came of a production line as being like an original, handmade "one off" painting or sculpture. A restored '61 Fuel Injected Corvette put together from original pieces has all the same characteristics as the original car simply without the original bill of sale documentation. I "only" love a car because of its characteristics, not because it is the original production model, but it's different strokes for different folks. For some folks having the "original" production '61 Corvette is worth five times as much or more even if it is the same in all characteristics. I don't mean to criticize those people's values, because everyone should get to enjoy what they like. They are just not my values!
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03-28-2014, 04:55 AM
#123
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Do you know if the hood is a Ford steel hood, or fiberglass?
Last edited by Mr. D; 03-28-2014 at 04:58 AM.
03-28-2014, 02:49 PM
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03-28-2014, 03:25 PM
#126
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LilRoush,
What I said is that I don't call "MY CAR" anything! It is a Roush build! I simply don't think you should get upset if a owner of a Authorized Roush Shop "major" build includes windshield banners, dash plaques, etc. on his Mustang. Only the very least informed ignorants will think it is a Factory Roush Serial Numbered Car like yours.
What I said is that I don't call "MY CAR" anything! It is a Roush build! I simply don't think you should get upset if a owner of a Authorized Roush Shop "major" build includes windshield banners, dash plaques, etc. on his Mustang. Only the very least informed ignorants will think it is a Factory Roush Serial Numbered Car like yours.
Yes I can only assume here, there was no mention of what you actually spent for it. But, if you were not concerned with overpaying for it then I can guess it was not a valuable collector car? And if you're Modifying it anyway then you've strayed away from what the intended vision for that car was. Which would make it fair to say you've changed or altered it, which in the collector world also devalues it. And in the real world makes it no longer a Roush original vehicle. Which would mean...B's car is just as much a Roush as your own.(see how that works)
In fact for the benefit of LilRoush claiming a Roush CAI will void a warranty.... That's not applicable if Ford installs it. And they do install them. Which means... simply put an OEM CAI back on ...take it to a Ford shop and pay them to install it.
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...in the age of Millennials with a lot more common sense and a true sense of value.... The collector Market is really the land of people with more money than brains.
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...in the age of Millennials with a lot more common sense and a true sense of value.... The collector Market is really the land of people with more money than brains.
I don't think the collector market is really "the land of people with more money than brains", but I see what you are saying. Maybe once you get into the rare exotics etc...
I don't have a lot of money at all. I do a lot of research before picking up a car. I've met a lot of great guys and gals that invest well with the little they have to enjoy a rare car. It does come down to personal priorities - an everyone will be different. Personally for me, I like having rare stuff. It doesn't have to be high dollar stuff. I just enjoy showing up at the track with something nobody else has. It's a fun talking point. To me the odd ball builds help keep the history of the line going.
03-28-2014, 03:56 PM
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03-28-2014, 05:11 PM
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