The unofficial resource center for Mustang owners and enthusiasts
Ford Mustang Forums - Ford Mustang Classifieds - MustangForums.com Photo Galleries - MustangForums.com Chat Room - Create an Account - Mustang News


Go Back   MustangForums.com > Ford Mustang Tech > 5.0 Mustang > Speed Density/Carb/SSP section
Welcome to Mustang Forums!
Welcome to Mustang Forums.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-19-2009, 01:36 AM   #11
hypersurf1
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location:
Posts: 176
Default

Great job Jon, nice to know the SD can handle the 30's. Let us know if you run it at the track or make any changes.
This ad is not displayed to registered or logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Mustang Forums!
__________________
Scott
2007 Shelby GT Paxton Supercharged 4.10's 499rwhp 440rwtq 12.65 @ 114mph on street tires

1988 Mustang GT Convertible Auto stock bottom with AFR 165cc heads, Explorer intake (tmoss ported lower), Speed Density, CAI, 70mm TB&EGR, shorties, 1.7 rollers 3.27's ???rwhp ???rwtq ??1/4 mile
hypersurf1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2009, 07:35 AM   #12
JPJP
1st Gear Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 51
Default

Great clip mustangjon. It's great you have done what people say can't be done. I once had an LSC which got me back into Mustangs again, thus my '86.

I am running a MSD-6A ignition box with my plugs gapped at .038". I hear most supercharged 5.0's like around .035" gap.
JPJP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2009, 11:54 PM   #13
cougar john
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Vehicle: 1988 merc. cougar 5.0
Location: california
Posts: 1
Default

Have you had any more luck?
I'm installing a Paxton self contained unit on my '88 Cougar XR7.
It's speed density with a cobra type upper/lower intake, 70 mil tb, MSD, headers, no cats.
Let me know if you have had any issues. I think we have basically the same motor and electronics as FOMOCO treated Lincoln and Mercury as bastards when it came to performance.
John
cougar john is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2009, 10:10 PM   #14
mustangjon
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location:
Posts: 38
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cougar john View Post
Have you had any more luck?
I'm installing a Paxton self contained unit on my '88 Cougar XR7.
It's speed density with a cobra type upper/lower intake, 70 mil tb, MSD, headers, no cats.
Let me know if you have had any issues. I think we have basically the same motor and electronics as FOMOCO treated Lincoln and Mercury as bastards when it came to performance.
John
Well My car has been down and out with my tremec swap.... long story short pieced together everything with new and used parts and A+B dont equal C so for 3 weeks its been sitting at my buddies shop with us only getting a few hours one day a week to put it on his rack. I rebuilt the fmu so should now be fine on the top end with fuel, also calibrated it to the 30lb injectors. Your setup should be similar to mine, i guess you still have e7 heads tho, you need to put a check valve to your MAP sensor and a small bleed hole after the check valve in the hose to vent any boost that gets through. MAP sensors do not like positive pressure. My motor was the exact same as the speed density mustang hipo. Not sure if the xr7 was the hipo, but with the intake changes and such not much difference. Im guessing your paxton is the 1220... the 5-6lb unit will be more friendly. Actually with the 30lb injectors in mine... it doesnt start going lean till a few lbs into boost when the fmu wasnt functioing
__________________
1988 lincoln lsc-accel 300+, pullies, electric fan,17" bullit wheels 245/45/17 stagger 275/40/17, kyb gr2 struts/shocks, CHE adj upper control arms. -rest in works (Dyno numbers before my gt40 set up 195rwp, 258trq)

1971 mustang project
mustangjon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 08:07 PM   #15
2tonterror
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicle: 1988 Lincoln LSC 2002 Mustang GT convt
Location: New York
Posts: 3
Default speed density and cams

I just installed a Crower 15511 and ported E7's on my 88 speed density LSC. The stock 19lb injectors worked fine. Anybody else do a cam swap??
2tonterror is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2009, 12:11 AM   #16
kelly3027
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicle: 87 5.0 lx hatch
Location: Colorado
Posts: 11
Default

Hey Guys, I'm brand new to the forum and to 'modern' muscle cars. My last one was a 70 Camaro, in the late 70's. I don't know jack about FI systems. I bought an 87 lx recently and am desperate for information. Most everything I read says trash the SD system. This thread gives me hope. I may end up getting rid of it, but I'd like to at least keep it until I understand how it works. I'm still in the process of fixing a buttload of stuff that I inherited with the used car. You ought to see the brake drums! Anyway, thanks for the information, Kelly.
kelly3027 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2009, 06:14 PM   #17
rbonella
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Vehicle: 1988 Ford Mustang GT
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 5
Default

I don't get it? New to the forum, but not new to fords (mustangs specifically) I'm reading threads about people porting gt40p's, different cams, 24-30lbs injectors, going back to 19's, adding 10lbs of vortech boost, plugging this, opening that, whay are you guys not converting to mass air? You have the money to put superchargers on, but you're retaining sd? Why? You're pulling off heads, porting e7's, porting gt40's, doing all this work with old speed density crap! Don't get me wrong, I had an 88 highway patrol car that was sd and I was able to successfully make a e303 work someone ok, gt40 tubular upper and lower, shorties, hpipe, yada yada, it eventually went 12.70's @ 105 with a 28x10 slick and 4:10's, but conversions are not difficult to do, not too expensive either. My point is...if you're spending all this time and $$$ (vortech sc) why wouldn't you make the most of your investment and run mass air? 9AL is a wayyy better cu which will adapt to your modifications much better. Someone enlighten me
rbonella is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2009, 11:14 PM   #18
markus2
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Vehicle: 1991 LSC SE
Location: NY
Posts: 16
Default WOW

Joined so I can try to learn a few things from the pony owners on here.
This is a great thread and I too am running 24 lb injectors with no tune and its SD with the stock computer of course ON MY LINCOLN MARK VII.
I have idle issues and some flat spots-but dont think its due to the injectors in there-First few weeks after putting them in-the thing ran fine-so I dont think its the injector size on my car configured for 19's.

Car failed emissions of course horribly-seems to be bit rich-gotta be the injectors.

But this thread gives me hope....

There is in fact others out there running larger injectors with SD non tuned set ups.

I just wanna know what the downside is-and how it is the car runs when everybody claims:

"YA GOTTA Change the computer-it wont run-u need mass air with correct calibration for injector size"

I guess that statement might not be totally true.
I DONT KNOW THAT MUCH AND AM HERE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT ALL THIS.
markus2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2009, 01:58 PM   #19
jayh88gt
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 49
Default

rbonnela- i cant answer that question, the sd runs good, i have had a few of them. Ive got heads intake 1.7's full exhaust and 11-12psi boost, car runs goood. I guees Im cheap and lazy I only have maybe 3500 onto the car and it runs good, I'd end up spending $500 and the car wouldnt be any faster or run any better?? why bother??
jayh88gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 07:38 PM   #20
Joel5.0
5th Gear Member
 
Joel5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Vehicle: 1986 Ford Mustang GT
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 3,736
Default

How far can you take speed density?.... it really depends on how far you want to take it. Just look at this GT40 headed '88 with an AOD transmission at idle and the specifications of the custom cam installed..... 24# injectors and a 65mm TB (70mm to be tested and compared) on an Edelbrock Performer, no tuner....yet.... as you can see A/C is mandatory in our neck of the woods.



Here's the setup idling in Park.......

__________________
ACRONYMS:
LUK=Let Us Know, GL=Good Luck, LMK=Let Me Know, JIC=Just In Case, BTSTDTRT=Been There Seen That Done That Repaired That, YCYDYP=Your Car Your Dough Your Prerogative and the classic... DILLIGAS=Do I Look Like I Give A S***

1986 GT-X303-289 heads-1.72 rockers-RG 4+1 Trans.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel5.0
Great thoughts will overwhelm a feeble mind.
There is never money to do it right, but there's always money to do it over.
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Joel5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote



Reply



Tags
165cc, 24lb, 30lb, afr, calibration, density, e7, fmu, friendly, heads, injectors, lincoln, lower, lsc, sd, speed

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Advertising

Featured Sponsors
New Sponsors
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:16 AM.

© Internet Brands, Inc.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company