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i hear ya dude. . . i've smoked plenty of LS1's that were stock. . . and to be honest, from a dig, it was terrible, like 5 cars or more. . .
hell i've even outrun 03 Cobras, and 06 Saleen SC's at the track just from driving. . . and i know their car is faster. . .
i think our car is just engineered to be a drag car, from the solid rear, perfect weight shift, and the sinking rear suspension, just hard to beat unless you have a LOT more power. . .
just my .02
Yeah, I was surprised when I saw the truth at the track. I was expecting them to leave us fairly easy. My friend's 05 had the pleasure of beating an SS by about a car length at the track. I didn't get that chance[>:], but I went 4-1 against him. Yep, this car is set up to be a drag monster if you want it to be. The LS1's have had plenty of years to experiment and get the impressive times and such. The new stangs are just getting started. I'm going to try and pay this thing off quickly so I can get the new Boss 302(5.0)[sm=drooldude.gif] that's coming out to compete with the Camaro. It's expected to have around 390 horspower at least.
you need to elaborate on this new BOSS 302, i have heard nothing. . . i want to know though. . .
i may consider a trade in. . . LOL
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I'm talking stock for stock you guys are saying that the Mustang GT could beat an 05/06 GTO and Charger STR8? Equal drivers?
Equal drivers or magazine racing, I'm assuming no. On the street/track in the real world where it counts, sure it can be done often and already has. The day where f-bodys can chuckle at GT's is over. I'm sure the 05/06 predecessors where frustrated with the difference in power and what not, but that gap is seriously smaller. Anyone who knows racing knows that a car with up to 50 or so more horsepower can be beaten because racing side by side is different from car and driver, etc...
Ok then you just admitted that the GTO and SRT8 are faster cars. You can talk about drivers all day and the fact of the mater is there are some really ****ty Mustang drivers too. In the real world and street racing especially you usually have a bunch of young punks driving Stangs, SRT8's, GTO Vettes what ever there daddy could afford and non of them no how to drive. There are some odler "veteran" guys the prey on the punks and can beat some nice cars in a lesser car but to me hanging out with a bunch of highshcoolers is a little fruity.
The track is a different story though. At the track you typically have much more experienced drivers so I'd say the stang would still be in big trouble.
****ty vs ****ty driver GTO wins (in this case an auto stang would stand a much better chance.)
veteran vs veteran GTO wins
****ty driver vs Veteran, who knows but in that case just about any car could beat just about any other car. This is what you've been saying since the begining and I don't dispute it at all but it means absolutely nothing.
I'm talking stock for stock you guys are saying that the Mustang GT could beat an 05/06 GTO and Charger STR8? Equal drivers?
Equal drivers or magazine racing, I'm assuming no. On the street/track in the real world where it counts, sure it can be done often and already has. The day where f-bodys can chuckle at GT's is over. I'm sure the 05/06 predecessors where frustrated with the difference in power and what not, but that gap is seriously smaller. Anyone who knows racing knows that a car with up to 50 or so more horsepower can be beaten because racing side by side is different from car and driver, etc...
Ok then you just admitted that the GTO and SRT8 are faster cars. You can talk about drivers all day and the fact of the mater is there are some really ****ty Mustang drivers too. In the real world and street racing especially you usually have a bunch of young punks driving Stangs, SRT8's, GTO Vettes what ever there daddy could afford and non of them no how to drive. There are some odler "veteran" guys the prey on the punks and can beat some nice cars in a lesser car but to me hanging out with a bunch of highshcoolers is a little fruity.
The track is a different story though. At the track you typically have much more experienced drivers so I'd say the stang would still be in big trouble.
****ty vs ****ty driver GTO wins (in this case an auto stang would stand a much better chance.)
veteran vs veteran GTO wins
****ty driver vs Veteran, who knows but in that case just about any car could beat just about any other car. This is what you've been saying since the begining and I don't dispute it at all but it means absolutely nothing.
At the track, I outran plenty of GTO's/Mach 1's and Ls1's. By your philosophy, my theory still stands. We can run with the best of em.
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I think people need to understand that even an Enzo can be driven to a 15 second 1/4 mile with an orangutan at the wheel. Does that mean that an Enzo is fair game for any of our cars? Uhhh no. No it is not.
My Track expireiance with the GTO.Milan Drag Milan MI.3 weeks ago.I pulled up to the tech station to have my 06 GT inspected at the same time the owner of a new GTO was having his inspected.We started some small talk with him and his father in law.He said he has owned the GTO for about 6 mos.and always wanted to take it to the track and see what it could do.He was Bone Stock.This was also my first time at the track in my Mustang.I had just had installed the sct 2 Flash tune and C&L CAI.He asked me what I thought it would run(you have to wear a helmet anything below 13.99)I said mid 13's because of the heat 87 100% humidity.He told me he was hping to run low 13's as well.His car was an AUTO no paddle shift etc.6.1 or 6.0 ltre?Since we showed up to the track at the same time we were ALMOST lined up together during the test and tune.But he was one run in front of me.Results after the first pass....I caught up with him after the first run while the Super stocks were running and everyone had there hoods up to cool and compared time slips.He ran a 14.6 A bad reaction time but anyone who has ever been to the track knows that doesn't matter in test and tune it still tells you what you ran in the 1/4.He had an AUTO not a whole lot of room for driver error.His next runs were 14.5 14.7 all pretty consistant.Just from my personal expirance with the GTO they are way to heavy alot of HP.But HP sells cars and torque wins races.Stock for Stock and equal drivers the Mustang will walk a GTO every time.
Until we can see what you run, there is no way of knowing. But consider a LS1 with only a couple bolt-ons. Lid, filter, and cut-out traps in the neighborhood of 107-110. You may get a 107 trap, but i really doubt you are going to pull anything higher. Which would just about put you even with an LS1 with only a couple basic bolt-ons. Its hard to find a completely stock LS1 which is what you would need to race in order for you to be so confident that they are scared of your GT.
It can all come down to setup as well. I am still beating my roommates 98 SS from a roll or a dig, and i still dont even have my 2nd gear fixed yet. Shifting from 1st to 3rd. But he is lowered and has to hard of suspension to get good traction. Anyway keep on thinking that there afraid of your car, but i can guarantee you that they arent. The guy in the SS in your other story that raced the STI probably thought the STI had mroe to offer him in the way of competition. I would think the same thing if i saw a new mustang GT.
i had a 110+ trap, then i modded more, and got a 108trap [:@] fu(king A
edit: im about 5-0 with mach 1's, about 12-4 with ls1 cars (two were highly modded vettes that raped me, but nitrous isn fair), and 4-0 with ls2 cars (all gto). track experience polls that regardless of circumstances and drivers, there is a trend developing there that suggests the new stangs can hang pretty well with lsx cars and their competition
edit edit: i never ran stock though, and i doubt i could do better than about a .500 batting average with those cars in that situation. however, most of them were modded to some degree as well, but i probly had more done on average. stock for stock, any ls1 car (save for the slow ass ls1 gto [8D]) will walk a stock stang. however, the game gets interesting considering how well these cars accept mods and how well they put down their power.
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My Track expireiance with the GTO.Milan Drag Milan MI.3 weeks ago.I pulled up to the tech station to have my 06 GT inspected at the same time the owner of a new GTO was having his inspected.We started some small talk with him and his father in law.He said he has owned the GTO for about 6 mos.and always wanted to take it to the track and see what it could do.He was Bone Stock.This was also my first time at the track in my Mustang.I had just had installed the sct 2 Flash tune and C&L CAI.He asked me what I thought it would run(you have to wear a helmet anything below 13.99)I said mid 13's because of the heat 87 100% humidity.He told me he was hping to run low 13's as well.His car was an AUTO no paddle shift etc.6.1 or 6.0 ltre?Since we showed up to the track at the same time we were ALMOST lined up together during the test and tune.But he was one run in front of me.Results after the first pass....I caught up with him after the first run while the Super stocks were running and everyone had there hoods up to cool and compared time slips.He ran a 14.6 A bad reaction time but anyone who has ever been to the track knows that doesn't matter in test and tune it still tells you what you ran in the 1/4.He had an AUTO not a whole lot of room for driver error.His next runs were 14.5 14.7 all pretty consistant.Just from my personal expirance with the GTO they are way to heavy alot of HP.But HP sells cars and torque wins races.Stock for Stock and equal drivers the Mustang will walk a GTO every time.
You should probably come talk to me when you have a 12.98 timeslip for your "stock" Mustang. You clearly don't have a clue. There is a TON of room for error with a automatic 400 hp 400 tq IRS rear wheel drive car.
First off My disclaimer was............."My Expireance with the GTO at the track"I never said it was law.And I'm not going to return to stock to see what my car will run.But if your claiming to run 12.9 stock I Call B.S.Second if you want to compare time slips now I have no problem.
My Track expireiance with the GTO.Milan Drag Milan MI.3 weeks ago.I pulled up to the tech station to have my 06 GT inspected at the same time the owner of a new GTO was having his inspected.We started some small talk with him and his father in law.He said he has owned the GTO for about 6 mos.and always wanted to take it to the track and see what it could do.He was Bone Stock.This was also my first time at the track in my Mustang.I had just had installed the sct 2 Flash tune and C&L CAI.He asked me what I thought it would run(you have to wear a helmet anything below 13.99)I said mid 13's because of the heat 87 100% humidity.He told me he was hping to run low 13's as well.His car was an AUTO no paddle shift etc.6.1 or 6.0 ltre?Since we showed up to the track at the same time we were ALMOST lined up together during the test and tune.But he was one run in front of me.Results after the first pass....I caught up with him after the first run while the Super stocks were running and everyone had there hoods up to cool and compared time slips.He ran a 14.6 A bad reaction time but anyone who has ever been to the track knows that doesn't matter in test and tune it still tells you what you ran in the 1/4.He had an AUTO not a whole lot of room for driver error.His next runs were 14.5 14.7 all pretty consistant.Just from my personal expirance with the GTO they are way to heavy alot of HP.But HP sells cars and torque wins races.Stock for Stock and equal drivers the Mustang will walk a GTO every time.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO
and already has. The day where f-bodys can chuckle at GT's is over. I'm sure the 05/06 predecessors where frustrated with the difference in power and what not, but that gap is seriously smaller. Anyone who knows racing knows that a car with up to 50 or so more horsepower can be beaten because racing side by side is different from car and driver, etc...
