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Ok so the new GTO's are faster...so what? I can spend money modding to even out the price difference right? There are a few newer gto's running around here and I would race them no doubt, but would I win? Its possible. I know the drivers are definately not good enough to make the 13.3 a reality, hell I dont even know if they could make 13.6 a reality (I guess it is a little unfair to the GTO's that the drivers, IN THIS CASE, aren't very good).
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The reason for GTO's not being able to break into the 12s, and into the 13s is the driver. My buddy has a BONE STOCK 05 GTO, and he went 12.9 with a 1.9 60'. This is on the stock street tires that came with the car. The LS2 is total garbage before it is broken in. Go searcing around on a GTO forum and find a dyno comparsion of two BONE STOCK GTO's, one with 2000 miles and one with 8000 miles, there is like a 30 hp difference. The LS2 generally puts down about 340-350 hp to the rear wheels in a 4000 lb car. Not too impressive, but you find me one BONE STOCK S197 mustang thatll break into the 12s, you wont. Thats terminator territory right there.
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Ah, my bad. I'm just baffled that this guy has all these mods and he's worried about a procharged Cobra?
Thats not the point. I happen to have a 12.98 slip for the car myself. Did it take awhile? Of course. But you guys said they were 14 second cars. I realize not all of you said that. I was just giving you info. Someone questioned, if 12's can happen. The answer is yes.
And really, I've had so many arguments about this car, I don't care to do it again.
So the GTO can do 12's. That's impressive
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4.10's/C&L CAI and tune/Poly Control arms/Bassani x-pipe with cats.
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil,
'The Light at the End of the Tunnel' has been turned off.
I just wanna say this is one of the dumbest ones i ve seen in a while. Arguments of well i saw one run a 15, or i beat one one time, and using that as what they run. Come on guys, we arent ricers here. Just because one sucked doesnt mean thats what they do. The GTO is a faster car, and for that matter so are any of the LS1's. Now i know, "i beat LS1's no problem", or "I saw an LS1 run a 14.4" or whatever crap stories we are going to hear. The plain and simple fact is that the LS1's, GTO's, LS2's, all of the LSx vehicles make more power and are faster cars stock vs stock. I have said it a million times, but i think im typing to the blind. All things being equal any LS vehicle will beat any stang, with the exception of the 03/04 Cobra, GT500, and Cobra R. So go ahead and begin the flaming or hating, but it is true.
I also wanted to ask you undefeated what do you have against F-bodies. Your last few thread and posts have been pretty ant-F-body. If i where you i wouldnt go around thinking they are hiding from you. While your car does look and sounds like it can put up some good times. I highly doubt any F-body guys are at all intimidated or worried about racing your GT.
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2008 Panther Black Pontiac G8 GT
I just wanna say this is one of the dumbest ones i ve seen in a while. Arguments of well i saw one run a 15, or i beat one one time, and using that as what they run. Come on guys, we arent ricers here. Just because one sucked doesnt mean thats what they do. The GTO is a faster car, and for that matter so are any of the LS1's. Now i know, "i beat LS1's no problem", or "I saw an LS1 run a 14.4" or whatever crap stories we are going to hear. The plain and simple fact is that the LS1's, GTO's, LS2's, all of the LSx vehicles make more power and are faster cars stock vs stock. I have said it a million times, but i think im typing to the blind. All things being equal any LS vehicle will beat any stang, with the exception of the 03/04 Cobra, GT500, and Cobra R. So go ahead and begin the flaming or hating, but it is true.
I also wanted to ask you undefeated what do you have against F-bodies. Your last few thread and posts have been pretty ant-F-body. If i where you i wouldnt go around thinking they are hiding from you. While your car does look and sounds like it can put up some good times. I highly doubt any F-body guys are at all intimidated or worried about racing your GT.
I lovvvve Fbodys, I wanted a Camaro SS or Ws6, but the one's that drive them make it seem like the 3v's are no threat at all. They are wayyy to sure of this. If I had never experience driving an LS1 myself, maybe I'd believe the[sm=bs.gif]. They must be humbled and I'll be one that will do it. Simply because you doubt they are intimidated doesn't change the fact that they wimped out. The story still stands. My "gt" as you call it climbed up the arse of a Camaro SS while he was racing another car and because of this, he didn't want to race when I lined up against him and the STI. Maybe they thought I had a supercharger or something, I dunno. My GT also out ran an 05 GTO by 4 tenths of a second during my first experience at the track. The way the Lsx's are spoken of, this is never supposed to happen. If you drive a 2005+ C6, Porshe 911 turbo, Porshe Carrera GT, or Bugatii Veyron, THEN you can take my GT lightly. If you drive a LS1, LS2, Mach 1 or a Srt8, you cannot take my GT lightly. My eyes have repeatedly seen the truth. Sorry if anyone doesn't like it. I'd settle it on the street with vids if I could, but all we can do is type until I do get vids.
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4.10's/C&L CAI and tune/Poly Control arms/Bassani x-pipe with cats.
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil,
'The Light at the End of the Tunnel' has been turned off.
Until we can see what you run, there is no way of knowing. But consider a LS1 with only a couple bolt-ons. Lid, filter, and cut-out traps in the neighborhood of 107-110. You may get a 107 trap, but i really doubt you are going to pull anything higher. Which would just about put you even with an LS1 with only a couple basic bolt-ons. Its hard to find a completely stock LS1 which is what you would need to race in order for you to be so confident that they are scared of your GT.
It can all come down to setup as well. I am still beating my roommates 98 SS from a roll or a dig, and i still dont even have my 2nd gear fixed yet. Shifting from 1st to 3rd. But he is lowered and has to hard of suspension to get good traction. Anyway keep on thinking that there afraid of your car, but i can guarantee you that they arent. The guy in the SS in your other story that raced the STI probably thought the STI had mroe to offer him in the way of competition. I would think the same thing if i saw a new mustang GT.
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2008 Panther Black Pontiac G8 GT
I just wanna say this is one of the dumbest ones i ve seen in a while. Arguments of well i saw one run a 15, or i beat one one time, and using that as what they run. Come on guys, we arent ricers here. Just because one sucked doesnt mean thats what they do. The GTO is a faster car, and for that matter so are any of the LS1's. Now i know, "i beat LS1's no problem", or "I saw an LS1 run a 14.4" or whatever crap stories we are going to hear. The plain and simple fact is that the LS1's, GTO's, LS2's, all of the LSx vehicles make more power and are faster cars stock vs stock. I have said it a million times, but i think im typing to the blind. All things being equal any LS vehicle will beat any stang, with the exception of the 03/04 Cobra, GT500, and Cobra R. So go ahead and begin the flaming or hating, but it is true.
I also wanted to ask you undefeated what do you have against F-bodies. Your last few thread and posts have been pretty ant-F-body. If i where you i wouldnt go around thinking they are hiding from you. While your car does look and sounds like it can put up some good times. I highly doubt any F-body guys are at all intimidated or worried about racing your GT.
I lovvvve Fbodys, I wanted a Camaro SS or Ws6, but the one's that drive them make it seem like the 3v's are no threat at all. They are wayyy to sure of this. If I had never experience driving an LS1 myself, maybe I'd believe the[sm=bs.gif]. They must be humbled and I'll be one that will do it. Simply because you doubt they are intimidated doesn't change the fact that they wimped out. The story still stands. My "gt" as you call it climbed up the arse of a Camaro SS while he was racing another car and because of this, he didn't want to race when I lined up against him and the STI. Maybe they thought I had a supercharger or something, I dunno. My GT also out ran an 05 GTO by 4 tenths of a second during my first experience at the track. The way the Lsx's are spoken of, this is never supposed to happen. If you drive a 2005+ C6, Porshe 911 turbo, Porshe Carrera GT, or Bugatii Veyron, THEN you can take my GT lightly. If you drive a LS1, LS2, Mach 1 or a Srt8, you cannot take my GT lightly. My eyes have repeatedly seen the truth. Sorry if anyone doesn't like it. I'd settle it on the street with vids if I could, but all we can do is type until I do get vids.
i hear ya dude. . . i've smoked plenty of LS1's that were stock. . . and to be honest, from a dig, it was terrible, like 5 cars or more. . .
hell i've even outrun 03 Cobras, and 06 Saleen SC's at the track just from driving. . . and i know their car is faster. . .
i think our car is just engineered to be a drag car, from the solid rear, perfect weight shift, and the sinking rear suspension, just hard to beat unless you have a LOT more power. . .
Hell, I actually prefer the competition NOT to be afraid of my car. I WANT them to take it lightly. I WANT them to think I'm an easy win. The two LS1 guys that have been badgering me at work for the last few months certainly didn't think much of my car. And let's just say that one of them has stopped running his mouth since last Sunday nite.
.........twice the pride............double the fall
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So technically the power to money ratio is still much better with the Camaro...
I don't think they correct times at the 1320 for that......
The 3V GT is definitely competition for the LS1. I'm not scared, though. If an 05-06 wants a piece and the conditions are right, its on. I am 1-0 against them so far.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO
