Racing with a Camaro SS.
08-23-2007, 02:20 AM
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Racing with a Camaro SS.
I was driving down the free way the other day and was having some fun with a SS. We both took the same exit and came to a light. He said to give her a try so I did. We both didnt hook to well from a dig but i hung with him through 2nd until I missed 3rd which I rarely do and then there was no catching him.. I guess i was just tired from working all night and needed a driver mod that day. =/. He said he had headers and a tune and that he was auto. Even upon hitting all gears he would have won. I love the sound of the SS and its much easier to build power on their bigger cubic inch motor. Ive found myself wanting one but I could never give up my GT.
08-23-2007, 03:11 AM
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RE: Racing with a Camaro SS.
The Camaro SS is a pretty respectable car. Not really as nice looking as the S197 but it's a great car for sure. With a few mods an S197 GT will run with it or beat it which says a lot for the 281 cubic inch displacement. The LS1 is only 2 valves per cylinder and pushrods. It NEEDS to be bigger to make power but regardless of using old technology they do work really well.
A good example of the point I am trying to make is GM's 5.3 V8 that goes into the Impala SS. It has pretty much the same horsepower and torque as the stock S197 GT engine yet it's almost 330 cubic inches. With friction producing pushrods and only 2 valves per cylinder GM needs 18% larger displacement to get the same power.
I'm just offering a different perspective.
A good example of the point I am trying to make is GM's 5.3 V8 that goes into the Impala SS. It has pretty much the same horsepower and torque as the stock S197 GT engine yet it's almost 330 cubic inches. With friction producing pushrods and only 2 valves per cylinder GM needs 18% larger displacement to get the same power.
I'm just offering a different perspective.
08-23-2007, 08:51 PM
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RE: Racing with a Camaro SS.
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I highly doubt that. Unless he wasn't racing.
I highly doubt that. Unless he wasn't racing.
1987 Z28’s High 14’s low15’s
1992 Z/28 high 14’s
1996 Z/28 low 14’s
1998 Z/28 SS high 13’s
I took down a Z/28 no problem he thought I was a V8
08-23-2007, 09:20 PM
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RE: Racing with a Camaro SS.
The z28 runs the same times the ss does...
I could see him taking a z28 out, stock for stock there is only a .3-.5 seconds diffrence in the 1/4...so its almost a driver race....
Nice death.
I could see him taking a z28 out, stock for stock there is only a .3-.5 seconds diffrence in the 1/4...so its almost a driver race....
Nice death.
08-23-2007, 09:33 PM
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RE: Racing with a Camaro SS.
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The Camaro SS is a pretty respectable car. Not really as nice looking as the S197 but it's a great car for sure. With a few mods an S197 GT will run with it or beat it which says a lot for the 281 cubic inch displacement. The LS1 is only 2 valves per cylinder and pushrods. It NEEDS to be bigger to make power but regardless of using old technology they do work really well.
A good example of the point I am trying to make is GM's 5.3 V8 that goes into the Impala SS. It has pretty much the same horsepower and torque as the stock S197 GT engine yet it's almost 330 cubic inches. With friction producing pushrods and only 2 valves per cylinder GM needs 18% larger displacement to get the same power.
I'm just offering a different perspective.
The Camaro SS is a pretty respectable car. Not really as nice looking as the S197 but it's a great car for sure. With a few mods an S197 GT will run with it or beat it which says a lot for the 281 cubic inch displacement. The LS1 is only 2 valves per cylinder and pushrods. It NEEDS to be bigger to make power but regardless of using old technology they do work really well.
A good example of the point I am trying to make is GM's 5.3 V8 that goes into the Impala SS. It has pretty much the same horsepower and torque as the stock S197 GT engine yet it's almost 330 cubic inches. With friction producing pushrods and only 2 valves per cylinder GM needs 18% larger displacement to get the same power.
I'm just offering a different perspective.
GM doesn't need larger displacement to get more power out of the pushrod engines. They do it for marketing value...the pushrod engines are light weight, gasoline efficient and very easy to mod.
For example, the 5.7L LT1 engine makes 300hp in the C4 Vette. The 5.7L LS6 makes 405hp in the C5 Z06 Vette. Over 100 more hp but no displacement increase. Better flowing heads are the difference. Rather than rely on valves, GM focuses on higher flowing heads..it's just a different way of doing things. GM engines breath a bit deeper than the 24-32 valve engines that they are in comparison with. I am certain that GM can produce a 4.6L with 320hp, if they can produce a 5.7L with 405hp.
As far as the Camaro goes, they get mad respect from me, just think a 1998 Camaro will still be a force to reckon with in 2008. Guys are still pullin low 13s in those thigs and even now adays low 13s is faster than most of the population...not too many cars out there in the 12s.
08-23-2007, 09:40 PM
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RE: Racing with a Camaro SS.
My best time (stock) with my '00 T/A was 13.7 in the 1/4. A stock S197 should run that, shouldn't it. Seems that a LS1 F-Body and a S197 are so close that it comes down to the driver not the car. I don't under stand why people always think LS1's are quicker than '05+ Stangs, I have had them both and I think the Stangs feels just as quick.
