Fastest Stock 350z 1/4 time.

[98LS1]

Eh, a 13.2 is most likely ideal, as already stated. Maybe God pushed the car across the line, who knows. But a 13 second pass isn't hard to believe as the previous models didn't lack much from dipping into the 13's.

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[moosestang]

ORIGINAL: Sleeper05

2007+ 350z=a damn even race with an s197 from a roll, and a tire away from edging one out from a dig

I just looked up the stock tires for the Z. Seems it comes with 18 inch rims (anyone know what they weigh?) and some nice $200 tires in the form of 245/45/18Bridgestone potenza RE050A high performance tires. That's got to give it a tire advantage over any mustang with the pirelli all seasons.

I didn't know they came with 18 inch rims stock, I bet they are light weight too.

[Grabber]

the rims weigh from 21lbs. up to 28 lbs each. The bridgestones each weigh 28 lbs. Your looking at about 50+ lbs. per wheel.

the factory 17 inch rims found on mustangs which are very common, weigh around 44lbs with tires. if you upgrade to teh 18's, around 56 lbs. something like that.

[Stone629]

I just thought of something. Everyone keeps talking about how much more powerful the newest 350z is. The previous had 287 and 300 uncorrected, so corrected they should be about 5-10 hp less than originally rated. The new 2007 350z is rated at 305 corrected, so that puts it at about 15-20hp ahead of the -2006 350s..(correct my math if off). 10 HP usually nets you a tenth in the quarter mile. So, the 2007 350z with (all) this extra HP really shouldn't be more than 2 tenths quicker than the previous models...right? Yes, I realize they raised the rev-limiter and altered the gearing so that the new one is more long-legged, (so give it a 3 tenth advantage) but unless the operator knows how to utilize this change (and maybe this guy did) their really isn't that big of a difference (to me) in the 2006 and the 2007 350z. And for the guys comparing 350z and the new stangs, please, the are evenly matched all day long.

[Grabber]

maybe from a roll. From a dig, mustangs win 9/10 with equal drivers.

[Peak350]

First - I lied and I'm posting again - I hate giving in but there is so much misunderstanding here.

First - my car weighs ~3500 lbs with me set at the strip for the run, possible a hair less. Thats based off a "high" curb weight estimate, and weights of everything in it. My sub is NOT in the car when I track, I placed my amp in a good spot so I could specifically remove the sub for travel/track.

Second - its an Entusiast, said it before, I'll say it this time again only. It has cloth manual seats, almost nothing over the base other than traction control and cruise control (and a ****ty VLSD).

Third - the wheels aren't particularly light, but the tires are exceptional for grip. Its one of the best tires I've driven on - going to a better potenza when these wear out (pole position).

Fourth - As I said before, someone who doesn't believe me is welcome to watch me run at the track - I'm not hiding anything. As for how I drive, the car begs to be shifted hard. The gears engage FASTER if you lift little to none at all. I rarely power shift 2nd because I get wheel spin. I got a little on this run but not sideways like I had earlier in the night. I was on the rubber of a nitromethane dragster, so that helped.

I was shocked by the trap speeds, but I had 5 or 6 that high out of 12 or so, and that tells me it wasn't just a fluke run. I had a less agreesive run that was only .005 slower through the 1/4 and had an even higher trap speed, I gained that time in the 330' - IDENTICAL 60' times between the runs.

The Z isn't a drag car, if I wanted a drag car I would have bought an LS2 GTO and modded it - my dad has a Corvette - I drove it, got used to its handling. Had a BMW with coilovers etc. before and was used to a tossable car. The Z will go sideways and back with complete control, it runs low 13 second 1/4's, makes a reliable DD, costs 31k and has 60k miles of warranty on the power train. I can't beat that for an all around car. If I had a DD I'd be driving a 3rd gen camero or a fox body Stang to the track (road and strip) - but I don't have the money yet, still a year left in school and one payment is enough for now.

I'll post a dyno from an 07 later if it would help, I'm at peak torque for my launch, and I'm getting it all to the ground - then staying in peak torque the entire run. I don't see how 270 whp isn't enough to give a 13.2 in a 3500 lb car, when in a 3650-3700 lb car (E46 M3) 280 whp can get 13.0/12.99 on a good run.

[Stone629]

ORIGINAL: 07GrabberMustangGT

maybe from a roll. From a dig, mustangs win 9/10 with equal drivers.

You are correct. I didn't explain that enough. I meant equal in the sense that one is better than the other in different areas, but when you compare all of the two cars pros and cons,they come out equal in my eyes. The mustang is definetly gonna win 99% of the drag races, but the 350z would probably be a little bit better on a mountain road, but then again, I've never had them both on twisy pavement. I think it was Edmunds that did a comparison test between the 2006 350z and the 2005 GT. I'll try to find the link.

[Red Turbo Integra]

Well, I believe you. Maybe you could take a vid next time you go to the track. If you do that, you'll probably want to pop your hood to show, or at least help show that your stock.

[Sleeper05]

Peak--You make plenty of good comments, and add some nice personal opinion. I agree with most of it. You mention the car being "low 13s" though, which, regardless of the legitimacy of this 13.2 run everyone is talking about, is simply the wrong way to approach the issue. I know of one stock s197 running 13.23 at 103, but the car is by no means low-13s off the floor.

Take a break, relax, and be happy with a great car that has a big bump over previous models. Don't get the s197-complex mentality like alot of my brethren (and I at times) fell victim to when our cars got a big bump over the 2v's.

PS--I'd like to see this 12.99 e46...I've tracked them before, and God would have to be in a good mood to launch one straight enough to do close to that, without torqueing all the way towards the bleachers on the right, off the line.

[Sleeper05]

ORIGINAL: Stone629

You are correct. I didn't explain that enough. I meant equal in the sense that one is better than the other in different areas, but when you compare all of the two cars pros and cons,they come out equal in my eyes. The mustang is definetly gonna win 99% of the drag races, but the 350z would probably be a little bit better on a mountain road, but then again, I've never had them both on twisy pavement. I think it was Edmunds that did a comparison test between the 2006 350z and the 2005 GT. I'll try to find the link.

The Z handles better in stock form, and can hold a line much longer. Wider tires, stiffer suspension, and better brakes all contribute.
However, the Mustang has a more rigid chassis, and can be bolt-on modified to have better geometry than can the Z with equal effort. A wise man (magazine article) once said "The 2006 convertiblehas a frame three times as torsionally rigid as a fox-chassis coupe with a 10-point roll cage." It will still need tires to run the Z though.
The Roush Stage 2 suspension upgrade (all the bolt-on stuff basically, plus wheels and tire) pulled a 1.02g lateral acceleration on a 200ft skidpad (I assume counterclockwise direction) in a test about two years ago. The 9in wheels with sticky 285 (IIRC) tires helped a lot in that, but you have to keep in mind that a factory-spec Lotus Elise only does it in 1.01. Don't get your panties in a bunch though...I'm obviously not making a fair comparison, and skidpad does not incorporate slalom movement, where the 1500lb-lighter Lotus would crush it.