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Old 10-21-2007, 05:28 PM   #31
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What echo, your statementmakes you soundlike a hater. Mine says that it can happen. You say that a 1.90 60' for a v6 is nothing on stock rubber. But most v8 with all the torque that everyone keeps talking about can't even go that 60' on stock tires. And you areright he doesn't have anything to prove to us. He has already proved it to his peers.
What is stock tires on a 350z? I bet it ain't pirelli all-seasons.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:51 PM   #32
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I find it hysterical how some of you have no idea of how torque relates to power & acceleration; maybe a real physics class would help (only directed toward a small handful of people).Especially those who state "no torque"... 260 lbs of torque on a 3350 lb car is no torque?Maybe those who state such ignorant statements should test drive one and feel how its gearing takes good advantage of those 260 lb feet of torque

I wouldn't be surpriced to hear the same responces for an 06 S2000: a low 14 second car with with only 162 lb ft of torque cannot possibly run low 14's. Oh wait, it weights 2800 lbs and has excellent gearing doesn't it.

I find the times believeable because, at the track he ran at, the DA's & track preperation are usually excellent compared to most other drag strips. That being said, like many others have stated here, I don't expect to go to my local track and see a stock 07 350Z run 13.2. But that's not that point of that list; the list just shows the BEST times to date for members of My350z.com.

The 2007 350Z is significantly faster than the previous 350Z's. Usually, I would expect it to run mid 13's depending on the DA's & track preperation, and driver ofcourse.

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Old 10-21-2007, 07:25 PM   #33
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I find it hysterical how some of you have no idea of how torque relates to power & acceleration; maybe a real physics class would help (only directed toward a small handful of people).Especially those who state "no torque"... 260 lbs of torque on a 3350 lb car is no torque?Maybe those who state such ignorant statements should test drive one and feel how its gearing takes good advantage of those 260 lb feet of torque

I wouldn't be surpriced to hear the same responces for an 06 S2000: a low 14 second car with with only 162 lb ft of torque cannot possibly run low 14's. Oh wait, it weights 2800 lbs and has excellent gearing doesn't it.

I find the times believeable because, at the track he ran at, the DA's & track preperation are usually excellent compared to most other drag strips. That being said, like many others have stated here, I don't expect to go to my local track and see a stock 07 350Z run 13.2. But that's not that point of that list; the list just shows the BEST times to date for members of My350z.com.

The 2007 350Z is significantly faster than the previous 350Z's. Usually, I would expect it to run mid 13's depending on the DA's & track preperation, and driver ofcourse.

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I hate to be the one to break it to you man, but 266lbs of torque at 4800 rpms is not much torque for a 3400lb car. My car weighs 150lbs more and has 320lbs of torque stock, so how is it this 350z is running the same ETs as mine? As far as comparing an S2000 torque to weight ratio to a 350z, you're talking about a car that weighs 700lbs less,and is slower than a 350, so what's your point? I have test driven a 350z,and it did exactly what I though it would do,handled well.
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:31 PM   #34
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What echo, your statementmakes you soundlike a hater. Mine says that it can happen. You say that a 1.90 60' for a v6 is nothing on stock rubber. But most v8 with all the torque that everyone keeps talking about can't even go that 60' on stock tires. And you areright he doesn't have anything to prove to us. He has already proved it to his peers.
What is stock tires on a 350z? I bet it ain't pirelli all-seasons.


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Old 10-21-2007, 07:42 PM   #35
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I find it hysterical how some of you have no idea of how torque relates to power & acceleration; maybe a real physics class would help (only directed toward a small handful of people).Especially those who state "no torque"... 260 lbs of torque on a 3350 lb car is no torque?Maybe those who state such ignorant statements should test drive one and feel how its gearing takes good advantage of those 260 lb feet of torque

I wouldn't be surpriced to hear the same responces for an 06 S2000: a low 14 second car with with only 162 lb ft of torque cannot possibly run low 14's. Oh wait, it weights 2800 lbs and has excellent gearing doesn't it.

I find the times believeable because, at the track he ran at, the DA's & track preperation are usually excellent compared to most other drag strips. That being said, like many others have stated here, I don't expect to go to my local track and see a stock 07 350Z run 13.2. But that's not that point of that list; the list just shows the BEST times to date for members of My350z.com.

The 2007 350Z is significantly faster than the previous 350Z's. Usually, I would expect it to run mid 13's depending on the DA's & track preperation, and driver ofcourse.

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I hate to be the one to break it to you man, but 266lbs of torque at 4800 rpms is not much torque for a 3400lb car. My car weighs 150lbs more and has 320lbs of torque stock, so how is it this 350z is running the same ETs as mine? As far as comparing an S2000 torque to weight ratio to a 350z, you're talking about a car that weighs 700lbs less,and is slower than a 350, so what's your point? I have test driven a 350z,and it did exactly what I though it would do,handled well.

1. The only 350Z that weighs 3,400lbs is a loaded, roadster model. The Base and Enthusiast Coupes weigh about 3,200. I had an '06 Base Coupe 6MT that weighed im at 3,240 w/ 1/2 tank of gas. My friend has an'07 Base Coupe 6MT that weighed 3,260. (sclae reads to nearest 10lbs) So unless it's a Roadster or it's a fully loaded auto, it weighs nowhere near 3,400lbs.


2. The '07 350Z's have 268 tq. Which isn't much more than the '06, but it has much more torque down low due to it's variable valve timing which the '06 back Z's didn't have.


3. People keep bringing up torque like it's the only thing that wins races. Here's the problem- peak torque is NO WHERE near as important as a car's overall powerband, and how a particular car's gearing allows it to use said powerband. Peak torque and hp numbers are just for 'glam' more or less.



Point is- if you're gonna argue for or against a topic, make sure your supporting facts make sense first.......
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:51 PM   #36
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Hey guys, let me chime in real quick.

the S2000 can hit low 14's and i know i read some where of it hitting high 13's.

But just to let you know the new 350z is rate at 305sae hp...I'm not sure what that is, but i do know its pushing more then 305 "crank" hp, so its pretty much under rated.
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:57 PM   #37
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What echo, your statementmakes you soundlike a hater. Mine says that it can happen. You say that a 1.90 60' for a v6 is nothing on stock rubber. But most v8 with all the torque that everyone keeps talking about can't even go that 60' on stock tires. And you areright he doesn't have anything to prove to us. He has already proved it to his peers.
I wasn't "hating'" on anything or anyone. I was presenting a skeptical point of view. There are others in this thread that are being more outright negative of this possible stock Z ET than myself. At least I'm quantifying my opinion. I suggest you stick to rediculing ppl who are actually "hating'"....rather than pick on ppl who are at least presenting somewhat intelligent points of view.

And one last time, I was talking about his 60' in relative terms. His 60'isn't any better than many of the other guys on that list. Which means.........he didn't land an ET 3 to 4 tenths better than alot of those other guys by cutting a rediculously wicked 60'.I wasn't talking about whether a 1.9 is a good short time for a stock350Z on street tires......because obviously it is.



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Old 10-21-2007, 07:58 PM   #38
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I'm not saying yes or no to the 13.2 the one guy supposedly ran. But yeah, as mentioned in some above posts, the '07 Z's are considerably quicker than the older one's. They're rated at 306hp and 268tq, but it's under the new SAE method. So converted to the rating system used on the '06, the new one makes about 315hp and 278 tq. The modest power increase on paper is deceiving, that's all.
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I know powerband and torque curve has everything to do with it. That's exactly why I brought up the fact that it's peak torque comes in at a high rpm, not down low-which makes it an ideal road course car, not a drag car. I NEVER said torque is the only thing that wins races. I stated that torque produces low 60ft times, which in turn produce low ETs! That is what this whole thread is supposed to be about, the fact that a 2007 350z ran a 13.2 second quarter mile.
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I agree w/ you to an extent. Torque and grip both are critical to a good 60'. And I wasn't just talkoing about you, I just quoted your post to rebut the weight misconception. So, it's cool. I was tossing in my two cents....
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