05LGT

ok lets get to the bottom of this. why the Z was a ricer and im not:

350Z: sounds ricey, often "riced out looking", and driver annoying revved at me

legacy gt: NOT RICER, doesnt have even the slightest hint of that ricer sound, best crash test rating u can get therefore a common family car, insurance is as cheap as a camry, comes in a freakin wagon, i own a USDM not a JDM, my car was made in Indiana, when u see my car u dont think "ricer" and actually u dont think of it as a fast car or a performance car

now the STI, thats another story

cacimar

i like your defenition of ricer but i respectfully disagree on some statements. I dont think the 350z exhaust note is ricey at all. I think they are very sporty looking and a lot better looking than urs. Having said that i do think ur car is a perfect sleeper though.

05LGT

oh i completely agree about the Z looking alot better. i personally dont like the look of my car but i bought it because it was the only practical car that was fast. with that being said i think the Z is ricer sounding, but still a very nice car nevertheless and id probably rather be driving an 07 than my legacy right now.

i think we all have our own definitions of ricer. i personally think modding the hell out of the exterior is ricey. most cars should be left alone, maybe rims at most. u wont find carbon fiber products or a huge spoiler or neon lights on a legacy i can assure u that.

and again, the STI is another story

Stone629

I think ricer is when a car is totally out of pROportion. Example, aluminum spoiler that is two feet wider than the car and actually slows it down due to drag, or stick on hood scoops and giant decals, fart cans on un-modded vehicles, etc. I personally like the Legacys, I think they are way overlooked. STI not ricer since the spoiler is functional...although it looks a little funny sometimes.

05LGT

+1. the stock 350z is not ricer car but some of them are "riced out." hell even a gto can be a ricer. not pretty, ive seen it before

scg87

^ Hey, since you're a Legacy guy- My friend recently bought an '05 Legacy GT, and he now has Cobb Stage 2, intake, and Invidia turbo-back. Any ideas on what his numbers would be to the wheels. I rode in it, and it feels pretty damn quick. A guy I know w/ a stock STi is wanting to race him, and I'm just curious what the outcome would be. Sorry to highjack the post......

cacimar

that maybe true, although i guarantee you u wont find aGTO that sounds ricey at all

05LGT

well, since he has cobb maps then i would say around 240-250 whp but there is much power left on the table. tell ur friend to get a protune or atleast TDC maps and he will be around 270 whp and a much fatter torque curve with the same mods.

but he will definetly have a close race with a stock STI. im guessing he will win, but barely. i beat a lightly modded STI by about a car length. but that tune is everything and those cobb maps are just too conservative.

05LGT

oh no doubts there! hey im a huge fan of the goat and always have been. the LS2 goat is easily my favorite car for under 50k

Stone629

I miss my GTO[&o]

2004 Full Bolt-on A4, Nittos, Dyno Tuned (340rwhp/350rwtq) ran 12.70s, those cars have awesome interiors too.