DSM Vehicles
03-04-2009, 09:53 AM
#64
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Man there was a lot of lies and crap said about these cars. I have a 400whp DSM at 30+psi on a stock longblock with no issues and very reliable. I will be throughing on an hx40 soon and hoping to break 500whp on the stock block.
The 4g63T has won tons of competitions for making the most HP on a stock block. The weak point is the rod bolts and they sometimes make it to 600whp no issues.
If anyone wants real answers about these cars ask them here. I would be glad to answer. Hope I can get me a mustang soon enough for my RWD heart.
The 4g63T has won tons of competitions for making the most HP on a stock block. The weak point is the rod bolts and they sometimes make it to 600whp no issues.
If anyone wants real answers about these cars ask them here. I would be glad to answer. Hope I can get me a mustang soon enough for my RWD heart.
Last edited by JayRolla; 03-04-2009 at 09:59 AM.
03-04-2009, 11:19 AM
#65
Wash Rinse Repeat
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,312
Man there was a lot of lies and crap said about these cars. I have a 400whp DSM at 30+psi on a stock longblock with no issues and very reliable. I will be throughing on an hx40 soon and hoping to break 500whp on the stock block.
The 4g63T has won tons of competitions for making the most HP on a stock block. The weak point is the rod bolts and they sometimes make it to 600whp no issues.
If anyone wants real answers about these cars ask them here. I would be glad to answer. Hope I can get me a mustang soon enough for my RWD heart.
The 4g63T has won tons of competitions for making the most HP on a stock block. The weak point is the rod bolts and they sometimes make it to 600whp no issues.
If anyone wants real answers about these cars ask them here. I would be glad to answer. Hope I can get me a mustang soon enough for my RWD heart.
well first off the first bold has nothing to do with anything due to the fact your rotating assembly is your "shortblock".... which I doubt is stock on a car that is pushing 30PSI through an obviously aftermarket fuel system and turbo... because yes, a 14B is pushing nothing but hot air at that PSI
next, good luck with that... a stock talon is not going to hold those power levels on it's stock bottom end, sure the block itself may be strong but there are little things called pistons and connecting rods that will fail way before the power levels you speak of... at least if you plan on driving it every day
Last edited by Morbid Intentions; 03-04-2009 at 11:34 AM.
03-04-2009, 11:37 AM
#67
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I wouldn't say sh!tty, they have their problems like any other car.. if kept care of and modded tright they were nice performers... just kids got ahold of them and were like "HEY PSI!" and hit fuel cut trying to push 19PSI on the stock fuel system... thus giving the cars a bad name and image
they are pretty cool when modded right, but good luck finding a decent one that wasn't beat on
but 500WHP on the stock bottom end through a 1G talon is just suicide... that's like pushing 1,000WHP through a terminator with no cooling mods because the internals are forged and "they can handle it"
they are pretty cool when modded right, but good luck finding a decent one that wasn't beat on
but 500WHP on the stock bottom end through a 1G talon is just suicide... that's like pushing 1,000WHP through a terminator with no cooling mods because the internals are forged and "they can handle it"
Last edited by Morbid Intentions; 03-04-2009 at 11:43 AM.
03-05-2009, 12:54 PM
#70
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well first off the first bold has nothing to do with anything due to the fact your rotating assembly is your "shortblock".... which I doubt is stock on a car that is pushing 30PSI through an obviously aftermarket fuel system and turbo... because yes, a 14B is pushing nothing but hot air at that PSI
next, good luck with that... a stock talon is not going to hold those power levels on it's stock bottom end, sure the block itself may be strong but there are little things called pistons and connecting rods that will fail way before the power levels you speak of... at least if you plan on driving it every day
next, good luck with that... a stock talon is not going to hold those power levels on it's stock bottom end, sure the block itself may be strong but there are little things called pistons and connecting rods that will fail way before the power levels you speak of... at least if you plan on driving it every day
The turbo is a 16g off the stock evo 3 lancer and it is pushing hot air but thats where the e85 comes in play.
Now the car has been daily driven for over 1 year on e85 at 30psi and dynoed 400whp. Now tell me why it hasnt failed.
Also many people run 550whp no problems stock longblock for many of drag seasons. These motors are real capable.