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We raced from a stoplight and I had him all the way there easily, and from a 40 roll and I got him really good there too... maybe he's just a bad driver??
Eitherway I would never put money into a TSX or something like that because I would imagine after you put the parts in the car they are of little value when you wanna sell it. And 5K for such little horsepower to me seems outrageous
I'm going to try to call up my friend with the Prelude and see if he wants to go for a 'spin' later today. I'll also give my friend with the Audi 3.2 a call and see if he wants to come for a spin. Now where do I tell my gf I'm going?! :P
Again, the improvement to the car's entire torquecurve and powerband aren't being considered. And it doesn't matter if he supercharges his car. Acuras/Hondas don't lose value. Period. Unless it's a complete hackjob, or the car is modded to the point of being unstreetable, it's value will still hold.
And btw, as for the Audi, if he's a decent driver, he should get you. Do you know what year it is?? Also, manual or auto, fwd or awd???
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Originally Posted by scg87
I'll agree w/ you on the price issue, however, all that's being looked at is peak hp gain. And everyone in this section of the forum should know that means diddly-squat. The gains the car will pick up throughout the entire powerband will be considerable, especially the low end. And of course, that is the area in Honda engines that most needs improvede upon. And as said, you can be sure that is on an otherwise stock engine. A good tune and bolt-ons would make that TSX a very healthy car. Granted it would't be raping Mach 1's or LS1's or anything, but still....
My point was, being its a honda motor. Im sure there's a turbo kit for less money that makes more power out there.
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11.79@118.53
BEST 60=1.68
BEST TRAP SPEED=120.60
I've never actually raced but according to my dyno numbers. I should run 8s on street tires.
Depends on where you want to make power I guess. Superchargers are more useable around town I'd say, whereas Turbos make more peak power. I'm definitely no expert on FI though!! I'm still trying to decide which route to take on my SI.
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308.4 RWHP/317.4 RWTQ
13.18 at 107 mph (2.0 60')...(1,243' DA, 75 degrees)
8.58 1/8th at 85 mph
Location: usally a state of confusion. But I live in jersey
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Well given a choice of a supercharger that makes 35 more peak HP vs a turbo that makes 100 peak for the same coin. I'd think it would be a no brainer to most. Just use the cobalt SS for example. It couldn't break out of the 14s with the stock supercharger at 10psi but as soon as you slap the turbo on it's in the 13s. It's just retarded to spend 5 grand on 35HP.
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11.79@118.53
BEST 60=1.68
BEST TRAP SPEED=120.60
I've never actually raced but according to my dyno numbers. I should run 8s on street tires.
Last edited by bluebeastsrt; 01-21-2009 at 03:50 PM.
Thats true, BB. Do the turbo SS and the previous SC/SS put out the same PSI? What about tuning differences, etc. I ask because the Comptech SC and the turbonetics and Greddy Turbo kits for my SI both put out 230whp at 4-6psi on a otherwise stock car, and 250whp at 8psi plus intake/header. Those are only peak numbers of course, how each kit performs is very different, I'm sure.
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2009 GT/CS, Vapor Silver, Manual '
308.4 RWHP/317.4 RWTQ
13.18 at 107 mph (2.0 60')...(1,243' DA, 75 degrees)
8.58 1/8th at 85 mph
Well given a choice of a supercharger that makes 35 more peak HP vs a turbo that makes 100 peak for the same coin. I'd think it would be a no brainer to most. Just use the cobalt SS for example. It couldn't break out of the 14s with the stock supercharger at 10psi but as soon as you slap the turbo on it's in the 13s. It's just retarded to spend 5 grand on 35HP.
Well, this is true. But you have to remember, all of the K series engines come w/ a fairly lofty CR. And while they do hold up to boost fairly well, they won't support enough of it to make 100hp gains on the stock internals. Not for long anyways. The supercharger kits offered for Hondas/Acuras are geared much more towards increasing overall driveability of the car. They add power, but in a safe easily controlled manner. Of course turbos will ultimately make more power, but at the expense of wear and practicality. I do see your point though...
Damn, that reminds me. I just automatically assumed he meant an A4. But the TT, A3, A4, and A6 all came w/ the 3.2 V6. If it's an A6 or A4 he might have a chance. A3 would be a tough one to win. TT would take a big screwup on the Audi's part.
What do the 4.0 S197s run stock? High 14s, low 15s?
A supercharged (low boost) TSX is good for a high 13 with nothing else done, so full bolt ons, tune, 4.10s, and DRs ought to take care of it on the track, but I doubt those mods will take him rolling..... if you're even into roll races that is.
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2009 GT/CS, Vapor Silver, Manual '
308.4 RWHP/317.4 RWTQ
13.18 at 107 mph (2.0 60')...(1,243' DA, 75 degrees)
8.58 1/8th at 85 mph
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