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Old 01-21-2009, 05:44 PM   #21
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I did a basic search for TSX superchargers and the first one I came across claims 50 hp at the wheels and 30 ft/lbs. The increase in torque in the lower RPMs will undoubtedly help.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:54 PM   #22
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I did a basic search for TSX superchargers and the first one I came across claims 50 hp at the wheels and 30 ft/lbs. The increase in torque in the lower RPMs will undoubtedly help.
Thats what I've been seeing too. The low 35 hp gain the OP is talking about threw me off. My little Miata even gets a 50rwhp gain from a Jackson Racing charger. Some of the better ones like the MP62 can give it (the miata) as much as 250rwhp, not bad for a 105 rwhp car. I would think the TSX would benefit a lot.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:21 PM   #23
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Here's the info on the numbers guys:
2004 Auto TSX with Comptech Supercharger, SC Hondata Reflash, Comptech Icebox, DC Header, OEM Cat, and OEM Exhuast.

Peak Horsepower is now 223 whp, up from 166 whp stock.
The Biggest horsepower gain was 59 whp @ 7100 RPMs

Peak Torque is now 165 ft/lb, up from 138 ft/lbs stock.
The Biggest torque gain was 43 ft/lbs @ 7100 RPMs
You will be better off going from a dig. As far as what mods will take it IDK depends how well you drive. I'm sure CAI/Tune/gears/locker/slicks/lca/axleback would beat it in the 1/4.
Or slap on a 75 shot and call it a day
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:22 PM   #24
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My buddy told me 35 horsepower, but he could be wrong. Heh

What are the laws against NOS? I'm not planning on doing it but now that Nitrous is in the subject... :P

As far as I can tell there are none... But I'm sure Cops would pull me over every time they saw me once they knew I had it. (If they could ever find out)
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:45 PM   #25
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The biggest law when it comes to spray...... is not to call it NOS! NOS is a brand name. I'm pretty sure its street legal. As long as you make sure its installed correctly and take all of the safety measures, nitrous is a pretty safe and reliable power adder.
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:42 PM   #26
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But its NEVER allowed to use on public roads/highways/streets/whatever right?
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That I don't know for certain man. I would say technically its not illegal to use spray on the street, BUT think about this way. If you do spray on the street, you're most likely exceeding the speed limit, and breaking God knows how many other traffic laws (careless and reckless, racing, etc). So if while spraying you're breaking laws, well........... you get the picture, lol!
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:14 PM   #28
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Depends on where you want to make power I guess. Superchargers are more useable around town I'd say, whereas Turbos make more peak power. I'm definitely no expert on FI though!! I'm still trying to decide which route to take on my SI.
Go turbo. You will not regret it. If you want more power down low, you can just buy a smaller turbo depending on how much power you want to make. If you want more power you can just upgrade to a bigger tubo later. Depending on what your wanting to use the car for, you may want some lag.



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Thats true, BB. Do the turbo SS and the previous SC/SS put out the same PSI? What about tuning differences, etc. I ask because the Comptech SC and the turbonetics and Greddy Turbo kits for my SI both put out 230whp at 4-6psi on a otherwise stock car, and 250whp at 8psi plus intake/header. Those are only peak numbers of course, how each kit performs is very different, I'm sure.
The PSI anything puts out is irrelivent, as it's the amount of air it flows that matters. 8 psi out of a T25 and out of a gt35R turbos are going to flow different amounts of air. Think of it this way. 8 psi going through a straw, and 8psi going through a garden hose, which one do you think is flowing more air?


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Well, this is true. But you have to remember, all of the K series engines come w/ a fairly lofty CR. And while they do hold up to boost fairly well, they won't support enough of it to make 100hp gains on the stock internals. Not for long anyways. The supercharger kits offered for Hondas/Acuras are geared much more towards increasing overall driveability of the car. They add power, but in a safe easily controlled manner. Of course turbos will ultimately make more power, but at the expense of wear and practicality. I do see your point though...
I'm not sure about the entire K series, but the K20s are beasts. Many people are running over 400 whp on stock bottom ends, and some are close or over 500s. Here are a couple of dynos of some that I found on the website of Slowmotion motorsports, our local Honda speed shop. These guys really know Hondas and have done a lot of work for me. Great group of guys.








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I did a basic search for TSX superchargers and the first one I came across claims 50 hp at the wheels and 30 ft/lbs. The increase in torque in the lower RPMs will undoubtedly help.
True, it will help, but Hondas shine on top end. Might as well get something that takes advantage of that.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:59 AM   #29
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As far as the spray is concernced, from my undestanding, you're allowed to have it installed here in VA, but if you were to get pulled, and the feed line from the bottle is connected, the car gets IMPOUNDED!!!! Stupid commonwealth.....
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As far as the spray is concernced, from my undestanding, you're allowed to have it installed here in VA, but if you were to get pulled, and the feed line from the bottle is connected, the car gets IMPOUNDED!!!! Stupid commonwealth.....
Good reason to keep your bottle hidden and never give consent to a search of your vehicle. They'll have to bring the nitrous sniffing dog!
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