4.0 VS Prelude VS TSX

[cacimar]

i wanst aware of this Nitrous BS Crap, thats why its better to have a healty turbo under the hood

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[Stone629]

Thanks for the info Red. Basically what you are saying is that most turbos produce more CFM and that the PSI itself is slightly irrelevant, right? I was under the impression that both the supercharger and the turbo produce the same volume of air up to a given point..... and that the superchargers usually max out quicker.

Let me ask you this, if your goal is say 230whp and that can be obtained easily by either source, would you say a turbo is still the way to go. 230 whp definetely is not my goal, more like 300.

Sorry for my ignorance, there's just a lot of info out there that trys to sale both routes. Its better to just ask someone who has actual experience, such as yourself.

[Red Turbo Integra]

Originally Posted by Stone629

Thanks for the info Red. Basically what you are saying is that most turbos produce more CFM and that the PSI itself is slightly irrelevant, right? I was under the impression that both the supercharger and the turbo produce the same volume of air up to a given point..... and that the superchargers usually max out quicker.

Let me ask you this, if your goal is say 230whp and that can be obtained easily by either source, would you say a turbo is still the way to go. 230 whp definetely is not my goal, more like 300.

Sorry for my ignorance, there's just a lot of info out there that trys to sale both routes. Its better to just ask someone who has actual experience, such as yourself.

It really depends on what supercharger and what turbo as far as which one will flow more CFMs, but it is irrelivent to look at just PSI numbers without knowing the amount of CFMs it can flow. I haven't run a supercharger, and I have to admit, I'm not an expert on them. What I do know is that turbos are more efficient, especially on a 4 cylinder as with a supercharger your taking power to make power, and us 4 cylinder guys need all we can get. A supercharger for a RWD V8 is a good idea because they can afford to loose the little bit of power it takes to run the SC in exchange for instant power to get them off the line, with the RWD bieng able to put the power to the ground better, where as in a FWD 4 banger you don't really want to give up any power, and you don't neccisarily need all the power off the line as you will just spin.


I always think turbo is the way to go no matter what your power goals are. If your looking for more throttle response for driving around town, you can just buy a smaller turbo. It will spool quicker and still be more efficient than a supercharger at making power as it's not taking any power to make power. It will kinda act like a supercharger aswell as you will get almost instant spool. Downside to that though, is that it will run out of breath on the top end, but probably no more than a SC.

There is a lot of info out there, but if you look at most of the guys modding 4 cylinders, especially in FWD ones, they're going the turbo route. Even GM ditched the SC and went to turbo. It's just better for us. I would suggest Figuring out exactly what your present goals are, and what your future goals may be and getting the smallest turbo to fit those needs. Back when I used the teg as a DD, I didn't mind having the lag as I still got great gas mileage and it acted stock when I wasn't trying to race or anything, but if I needed the power I just took it over 4k rpms and I was gone. If you have any more questions just ask.

[Shaunmac9128]

Damn. I looked around for a while at integras before I got the stang believe it or not and I never saw an LS break 300whp. I saw a gsr make I think 250 all motor which was pretty cool and I saw a few ls turbos but none built like yours obviously lol. That must be one mean tegg. whats your 1/4 like?

[Red Turbo Integra]

Originally Posted by Shaunmac9128

Damn. I looked around for a while at integras before I got the stang believe it or not and I never saw an LS break 300whp. I saw a gsr make I think 250 all motor which was pretty cool and I saw a few ls turbos but none built like yours obviously lol. That must be one mean tegg. whats your 1/4 like?

Tegs are great cars. I've seen a few built LS motors over 400whp. Most GSRs boosted can do 300 whp with no real problems. The 308 was on a built bottom end, but I had a mishap with it. Before that I had 245 on a stock ls motor and really, for just a street car it was fun. I could have boosted it more on the stock motor, but I didn't want to. I never went to the track with it so no 1/4 mile times (that will change this year) but a buddy with a similiar set up at 250 whp ran a 13.1 on drag radials. At 300 whp it probably would have went upper 12's. If I can get slicks, I'm hoping that I will be hitting low 11's on the new set up, Driver mod permitting. Down the line I'm gonna do water/meth and hopefully will break into the 10s.

I'm not to concearned with the track though, as I really just like beating up on cars on the highway. It may sound juvenile, but it makes me happy. I don't like having to deal with pesky traction issues, LOL. Some people like to hate on roll racing, and that's fine but don't rev at that honda on the highway with a whistle comming out the hood! LOL.

[Shaunmac9128]

haha nice man. I love teggs