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I know that would help man. But Mishri's 4.10 geared auto didn't need them. And neither did AmericanSpeed's car.
It's a band-aid for poor driving. That's why I keep resisting them. And if I get them and eventually get FI then I'm back to the same problem again.
I don't quit easily I'll go out a time or two again and try. But another 30x down the strip I better have some results or I'm gonna have to just suck it up and admit that I can't drive a manual nearly as good as I thought I could.
No, "its" not. DRs hook better than street tires...
Have you ever raced (driven/drove in a race) either of those cars?
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Originally Posted by Riptide
I know that would help man. But Mishri's 4.10 geared auto didn't need them. And neither did AmericanSpeed's car.
It's a band-aid for poor driving. That's why I keep resisting them. And if I get them and eventually get FI then I'm back to the same problem again.
I don't quit easily I'll go out a time or two again and try. But another 30x down the strip I better have some results or I'm gonna have to just suck it up and admit that I can't drive a manual nearly as good as I thought I could.
That is the silliest thing I have ever heard. I guess all mods then are a band aid. If you think a 2.0 60 foot is good, I have bridge to sell you. There is a point that you will need a set of good tires if you want to be fast. A rear wheel drive V8 car that makes a decent amount of tq will never run it's best on a regular street tire, even Jesus came down and drove it.
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Originally Posted by Riptide
I know that would help man. But Mishri's 4.10 geared auto didn't need them. And neither did AmericanSpeed's car.
It's a band-aid for poor driving. That's why I keep resisting them. And if I get them and eventually get FI then I'm back to the same problem again.
I don't quit easily I'll go out a time or two again and try. But another 30x down the strip I better have some results or I'm gonna have to just suck it up and admit that I can't drive a manual nearly as good as I thought I could.
I admire your will to get better on street tires. The best advice is to slip the clutch. You'll have to toy with your launch RPMs but your really going to have to ride the clutch. Take it from someone who doesn't have rear wheel drive traction in his favor. As far as the DRs being a band aid you can only take street tires so far. If your getting 1.9 sixtys thats about as good as it gets. DRs are just another mod and they'll gain you another 3 tenths on your sixty.
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I've never actually raced but according to my dyno numbers. I should run 8s on street tires.
Last edited by bluebeastsrt; 06-21-2009 at 07:48 PM.
No, "its" not. DRs hook better than street tires...
Have you ever raced (driven/drove in a race) either of those cars?
BB got the point.
Obviously DRs are going to be a requirement at some point. 3000 posts and you think I don't know that? Are you kidding me? DRs for a 2.4 60' on stock tires ARE a band aid for my extremely lightly modded car.
2.4 60' is ****ing terrible for stock tires. I need to learn how to launch the car and in 20 passes have gotten practically noowhere with it. Others have done much better and I'm pissed that I seem to suck ass at this so badly. Why should I buy DRs when others don't need them? Either I get better at this and if not then give up entirely. Or ditch this car for an auto.
Slipping the clutch is good, but sometimes the fastest times can be had by spinning a little. Youve got to play with the throttle to get it just right, and make sure you don't floor it to soon.
It's the technique I got stuck with after the stock clutch let go and I got a Spec stage 3. I get 2.0 60's on Riken's with this technique whereas I got 2.2's on BFG's with the slipping.
Just a suggestion though.
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Spinning means to much throttle and to much clutch.
Bogging means to much clutch and not enough throttle.
I've tried various combinations of throttle and clutch. So far I've gotten noowhere with it. Only thing I can think to try is to start over. Settle on a certain rpm range and stick with it. Then concentrate on the only other variable at that point - clutch slip.
I'll try 2400-2600rpm and just stick with that next time I try this.
Obviously DRs are going to be a requirement at some point. 3000 posts and you think I don't know that? Are you kidding me? DRs for a 2.4 60' on stock tires ARE a band aid for my extremely lightly modded car.
2.4 60' is ****ing terrible for stock tires. I need to learn how to launch the car and in 20 passes have gotten practically noowhere with it. Others have done much better and I'm pissed that I seem to suck ass at this so badly. Why should I buy DRs when others don't need them? Either I get better at this and if not then give up entirely. Or ditch this car for an auto.
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I appreciate you answering my other question too, so much that I'll ask it again. Have you ever raced in either of those two cars?
Would you rather shoot for a 2.0 sixty foot time on street tires, or shoot for a 1.8x on DR's AND run a faster ET? If you just want bragging rights for a 2.0 or a 1.9x on street tires, then congratulations on having pride while running slower, I guess. You might be better off getting an automatic car, those are probably much easier to get a good street tire time. That way, you can post your personal bests AFTER a DA calculation and still argue about the S197 GT being a better value than a Terminator.
Quick question, when you see/read about people running 1.6-1.8's on DRs, do you think to yourself "YEAH WELL I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEY DO ON STREET TIRES"?
Don't worry. I'm putting him on the ignore list. What's he good for anyway? Just craps on my thread and brings up some garbage about the value of terminators vs. a GT and some crap about personal bests and DA calculations.
The guy obviously has a hardon for me at this point so there's no sense in seeing anything he has to say.
EDIT: Dude are you kidding me? I can't add him to ignore because he's an admin. So I have to see his threadcraps all the time now eh? Nice.
One thing that I haven't read about in this thread: Keep in mind the timer doesn't start until you reach the end of the 12 inch roll out (you have to stage just right, that's a big part to short times). Use that for a little 'head start', because you don't have to make the rear squat the exact moment you start rolling forward.
Also, if you just want to totally ignore that I disagree with "DR's are just a bandaid for poor driving", then leave it at that. (psst, the cake icon was meant to be used as a , tee hee! Just joking around, that is all.)
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