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Old 09-20-2013, 09:18 AM   #1
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I was sitting in a left turn lane when a Neon pulled up next to me in the straight lane and kept looking over. As I was turning I noticed he had gotten over into the turn lane and was turning as well. I knew what was going to happen, so I slowed down as much as possible considering there were other cars behind me. Sure enough, he came flying up and paced me. We took off at ~25, which is not the greatest for me (it's too fast for 1st, but a little slow for 2nd). He got a car length lead quickly, but once I got into the power band I stoppped his pull. I couldn't reel him in though and we shut down at ~100. Did it again from 35, with the same result though he only got about 3/4 of a car on me. We hit a light, but a guy was in front of me so we couldn't run from a dig.

He asked what I had done to the Mustang. I told him and he asked what it put down. I told him about 361 at the wheels. He said his put down 429 and ran 11.9s.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:58 AM   #2
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Not bad considering 70hp difference, and being his car is lighter. But 11.9's out the of his car at that power……… should be quicker. But eh, who knows his setup. Congrats on sticking close.
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:34 AM   #3
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Yeah, the only advantage I had was gearing. That time was probably what he runs here in Central Texas in the high heat and humidity without DA correction. I didn't get a chance to hear about his mods before the light changed, but he had a very loud blow off valve on that thing.
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Yeah, the only advantage I had was gearing. That time was probably what he runs here in Central Texas in the high heat and humidity without DA correction. I didn't get a chance to hear about his mods before the light changed, but he had a very loud blow off valve on that thing.
You're at 361 at the wheels (over 400 at the crank or over 100+ HP from stock) with just your mods?? Cams, some exhaust work, a CAI and tune, and gears....and no head work...? Mmmm...I dunno. Sounds like a streeeeetch.

I can see that if you add FRPP heads or PP your heads with larger valves, upgraded intake manifold and GT500 TB....
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:54 PM   #5
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Not bad considering 70hp difference, and being his car is lighter. But 11.9's out the of his car at that power……… should be quicker. But eh, who knows his setup. Congrats on sticking close.
The first time I went to the 1/4 (only 383whp at the time) I left with an 11.8@123. First time playing with slicks as well. Can't really tell anything from someone's claimed dyno numbers.
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The first time I went to the 1/4 (only 383whp at the time) I left with an 11.8@123. First time playing with slicks as well. Can't really tell anything from someone's claimed dyno numbers.
Congrats on those times, that's a great trap speed for that power, is your car lightened at all? And how's your 60ft. Just curious with it being fwd.

Are you the one that the op raced?
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2880lbs. Nasty 60ft that trip.. 1.9 (next trip was a 1.73 on slicks and stock/Mopar suspension)
Traps tell more than a dyno number.

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Old 09-20-2013, 06:27 PM   #8
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Good run OP. He may pull those ETs on the track, but I'd imagine those front tires were struggling on the street.

361? That sounds awful high to me as well. But dynos are dynos, never been big on the numbers they spit out.
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Im with u stone. Suprising dyno results. A skittle with that power would be a roll monster. So you must be making some kinda power to keep up or the skittle owner is fudging numbers.
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Yes, a "430whp" Neon would be a roll monster(in comparison to the 3V in question, yet still weak in contrast), though not without a boost box/boost by gear from a 25 roll..If he was able to jump ahead from 25, then not pull ahead with your set up..he isn't making that "power". From exp..I was trapping like like 6-7 mph more than a pullied Termi Cobra, and like 5mph more than a 175 shot/bolt on LS2 Goat..few members on here to confirm.. ..again with a weak 383whp..(again dyno numbers) ..They can be severely either off in the neg or pos..
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Damn. I didn't realize how much power those Neon's can make!! That's impressive. How long does the motor last? :-)
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Forever! . Drive train, not so much. But a tuff little engine.
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it would have been closer if you had drag raced him rather than roll raced him. I've seen high 10s from those cars.
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I was and am still stock short block..One of my friends ran 10.4@140 stock bottom before a ring went.

Drivetrain, I have broken an input shaft, though the trans do have good upgrade options.
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it would have been closer if you had drag raced him rather than roll raced him. I've seen high 10s from those cars.
I tried. We just couldn't catch a light.
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Man I need to find that dyno. 361 from a 3 V with bolt ons? Da**! Anyways good run man. Any future plans?
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He does have cams... doesn't that make a difference? 361 seemed weak to me for a cammed car.
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I think people say the average for a LT header+cammed 3v is around 350whp... cai+tune can take you up close to 300whp, get another 25-30 with LT headers, another 25-30 for cams. He might have a good tune and strong running engine, I don't think 361whp is impossible, but it could be a slightly generous dyno.

The neon's claimed dyno+1/4 mile times seem off unless his engine wasn't running properly... glad I have the 5.0... now I just need a supercharger and better wheels/tires/suspension so I don't get embarrassed by a neon hehe I still could though, there is a neon that frequents our track that has a parachute (obviously nothing is stock about it, except for the body, it says "It's only a neon" on the back)
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Man I need to find that dyno. 361 from a 3 V with bolt ons? Da**! Anyways good run man. Any future plans?
I'm looking for a DD now so I can park it. Once it becomes a weekend car I'd like to put a blower on it. Of course money is a huge factor.

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He might have a good tune and strong running engine, I don't think 361whp is impossible, but it could be a slightly generous dyno.
This car has always seemed to be strong for what it has, ever since I bought it new. I'm really cool about letting people drive it who I trust, and I have been accused of lying about mods. More than a few people have said it has to have more than I say it has, even when it was stock. I also bought my wife an 08 GT brand new as well, so I had a good comparison back when mine was stock. She and I both agreed mine just felt a bit faster stock vs stock for some reason (and we both had 3.31 gears stock, so it wasn't that). Also, our clutches dont have nearly the same feel for whatever reason.

I did have it tuned by Mike Murillo, who has a Mustang dyno. It dyno'd like 312rwhp there, but it actually felt quite slower after his tune than when I brought it in. I took it back to the previous tuner (where I got the numbers I posted) and had him reload his tune. He said Murillo had set my timing back by about a third. I'm not sure what brand dyno the last tuner I used has, but it's not a Mustang dyno.
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