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I swear.. the only reason you post on here is to proclaim how much better GM engines are over fords and most of the time you are talking out of your ass or just making crap up. I double checked with someone who has done a cam swap in both an LS1 and a 3v sohc he said the 3v was much faster and easier to do and the cams were cheaper.. yeah. its only gonna get you about 25rwhp w/o heads but thats why we get blown
yeah.. a s/c only gains us 200rwhp for $5500-$6000.. so.. $30/hp... get forged internals in there then we can start running some serious power.. and maybe you should give chevykiller a run since 3vs suck so bad.
and that s/c should get you well into the 11s with drag radials and LCAs. ($500 more)
and thats a fairly simple weekend project.. 10 hours if you know what you are doing. brenspeed does it in 6 hours
You know, I actually missed this post. This is the single dumbest post on here. No wonder SR8 said something about blowing the LSx.....which we normally don't need. Nitrous works just fine, for much less money. But apparently you can't forge internals on a GM motor......Chevykiller....give me a break, the guy even said his car is a purpose built race car now. Dood you fail, hard.
Dood....honestly, you need to stop posting anything that has to do with tech. Stick to opinion based threads. Obviously you know NOTHING about cars. You really fail at life.
EDIT: quit edit'ing your post.....you realize how ****ing much you fail and then you try to re type it.
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Vehicle: 1994 Mustang Super Special Hooker Edition GT
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
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The gm's I have owned in the past always seemed to have little electrical gremlins, I have never had problems like that with any of the fords I have owned (they've had there own sets of problems, lol)
I cammed my Z28 for $1k, that was installed. I called my tuner a couple weeks ago to discuss camming my GT, and I was quoted at $1200 for NSR cams/installation. Doing a bigger cam that requires springs, phasers, etc, would involve removing the heads and is VERY expensive. Like $3k. The gains per dollar strongly swing in the LSX's favor. Honestly, the two cars modding costs are pretty similar.
OP, if you are satisfied with 350 rwhp, then all you need is a LS2 GTO with a tune.
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308.4 RWHP/317.4 RWTQ (tune, pulleys, intake, 4.10s, LCAs, Mac AB)
New mod, not tested- Bassani Catted X-Pipe
13.18 at 107 mph (2.0 60')...(1,243' DA, 75 degrees)
8.58 1/8th at 85 mph
hmm in that post i specifically said i wasn't going to i was discussing install prices. I guess you can trake pride in doing your own work.. im cheap and I want save money.. my dad has the mentality that you should just make enough money you don't have to waste your time doing crap you can pay other people to do I know you can boost an LSx motor.. a guy with a s/c gto raced/lost to a s/c mustang (otherwise stock) so the gto owner sold his car.. hehe (actually, we don't know if he sold his car because of that)... hmm and how much do they cost? i looked around and all i could find were running 8,000. I believe the camshaft for the LS1 was around $1,000 and the 2 for the mustang were $600 for both.
I did a little bit of price checking and found many parts were slightly more than for an s197 GT but im sure the right sites might have them at about comparable price.
HAHAHAHA where did you get that number for the cam? I am getting a new cam for 400 bucks in my C6...................haha 1000!! pppssssshhhhh
Mod for mod the LS2 is better than the 3v 4.6. If you want performance go for the bigger engine. If you want looks and stuff go for the mustang. You can get a C6 LS2 for what you can a 2010 mustang you know.
And since one guy lost in his s/c goat to a s/c mustang means nothing.
I like both cars....GTO is a little to heavy and plain (but I like the power) for me and the Mustang is really cool (but alot of them are around). So that's why I got best of both and got the vette
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hmm in that post i specifically said i wasn't going to i was discussing install prices. I guess you can trake pride in doing your own work.. im cheap and I want save money.. my dad has the mentality that you should just make enough money you don't have to waste your time doing crap you can pay other people to do I know you can boost an LSx motor.. a guy with a s/c gto raced/lost to a s/c mustang (otherwise stock) so the gto owner sold his car.. hehe (actually, we don't know if he sold his car because of that)... hmm and how much do they cost? i looked around and all i could find were running 8,000. I believe the camshaft for the LS1 was around $1,000 and the 2 for the mustang were $600 for both.
I did a little bit of price checking and found many parts were slightly more than for an s197 GT but im sure the right sites might have them at about comparable price.
You need to look around some more. Straight from Magnacharger, with everything possible that you would need (blower, intake manifold, injectors, fuel rails, tune, etc.), it comes to $5k+$75 for shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-...Q5fAccessories
Also, your cam prices are way off. You can get a custom ground cam for an LSX for less than $500. An off the shelf cam is going to be around $350-$400. Not to mention, you're going to see a lot better gains from camming an LSX than any N/A modular motor.
hmm in that post i specifically said i wasn't going to i was discussing install prices. I guess you can trake pride in doing your own work.. im cheap and I want save money.. my dad has the mentality that you should just make enough money you don't have to waste your time doing crap you can pay other people to do
So you're cheap and want to save money, so you get someone else to install things for you?
There is no way in HELL you can get 750 whp without forging the engine, and then that is additional costs. Plus nobody wants to run 116 octane all the time. I really didn’t know HCI LS motors made slightly less than 750rwhp…. Oh wait they don’t .
yes you can, but for a very short amount of time...and there are PLENTY of people around here running 116 ALL the time. In supra's, in 1300whp vettes, 1kwhp mustangs
and if you don't think the HCI guys in the LSx series of cars aren't forging their internals your very very wrong.
your gonna spend ~8-10k on a good HCI setup your gonna spend the same amount on a s/c setup..or you could 4k forged w/ 200shot.
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