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If that is true, that would be awesome! I really want an EVO IV, but I would REALLY have to consider this if I don't have one by then. 400HP in a factory mustang is something I could really get down with. I also like the idea of 4 valves and a six speed. Anyone know about the torque rating? My guess is that it will be around 365 ft/lbs or so. Would be sweet if it was close to 400/400. though.
Rumors have pegged it around 400/400.
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Yeah, and 400 lbs. of torque wouldn't be that hard to reach. I mean, if the 4.6L 3v can hit 325 lbs., then I'm sure a 5.0L 4v engine can hit that mark without an insane amount of engineering behind it.
I wonder if it'll have a nice powerband? Because I for one HATE the fact that my 2v V8 gets it's torque at high RPM...Makes driving in town a pain in the arse!
These new numbers do make it tempting to get set up for a future trade, but I'm sure you guys are aware of the massive loss one takes when trading. I may look into a 5.0 stang a year or two after they come out, just depends. It may be cheaper for some of us 4.6 guys to supercharge/build/stroke/cam our 4.6 engines versus giving our cars away at the dealership. I'm sure the initial price tag will be inflated, just like the Camaro was, but it should ease back down to the suggested msrp after a few months. They shouldn't cost anymore to produce imo. A 400 bhp stang should be similar to a bolt-on cammed 4.6 S197 though, with a different powerband of course. Having 400 horses as a base obviously is a better place to start.
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8.58 1/8th at 85 mph
These new numbers do make it tempting to get set up for a future trade, but I'm sure you guys are aware of the massive loss one takes when trading. I may look into a 5.0 stang a year or two after they come out, just depends. It may be cheaper for some of us 4.6 guys to supercharge/build/stroke/cam our 4.6 engines versus giving our cars away at the dealership. I'm sure the initial price tag will be inflated, just like the Camaro was, but it should ease back down to the suggested msrp after a few months. They shouldn't cost anymore to produce imo.A 400 bhp stang should be similar to a bolt-on cammed 4.6 S197 though, with a different powerband of course. Having 400 horses as a base obviously is a better place to start.
Yeah, but think about when you bolt on and cam the new 5.0!
Bigger displacement *should show more gains when doing bolt-ons, especially considering the new 4 valves,
right?
(Now that I'm thinking about what I said, I guess it would depend on how efficient the factory set up was in the first place)
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Way to go SPEED RACER. Rev to get a race and then not only do you get outlaunched but you start missing gears.
Last edited by Red Turbo Integra; 09-01-2009 at 10:08 PM.
Reason: Thought more about what I said.
^ Even with an efficient factory set-up, there usually room for some improvements as the owner does not have to comply with some of the government regualtions as the OEM did(NHV, etc..)
I wonder if the 5.0 will run on 87 octane? Either way, it sound like the line up will be extremely developed and well rounded! Will they bring back the "5.0" fender badges?
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Yeah, but think about when you bolt on and cam the new 5.0!
Bigger displacement *should show more gains when doing bolt-ons, especially considering the new 4 valves,
right?
(Now that I'm thinking about what I said, I guess it would depend on how efficient the factory set up was in the first place)
Thats true Red. Happened to me when I bought a 5.7 GTO. Had to do full exhaust,intake and a tune to be where the LS2 was stock. Sad, but true.
I just had another thought/wonder. Any chance the new 5.0 will be tweeked from the factory, or possibly not respond very well to mods? I just thought I'd throw that question out there to get some opinions. Personally, I doubt this will be the case judging by previous Mustang GT engines. Most have responded fair to very well to mods.
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2009 GT/CS, Vapor Silver, Manual '
308.4 RWHP/317.4 RWTQ
13.18 at 107 mph (2.0 60')...(1,243' DA, 75 degrees)
8.58 1/8th at 85 mph
^ Even with an efficient factory set-up, there usually room for some improvements as the owner does not have to comply with some of the government regualtions as the OEM did(NHV, etc..)
I wonder if the 5.0 will run on 87 octane? Either way, it sound like the line up will be extremely developed and well rounded! Will they bring back the "5.0" fender badges?
While that is true, the gains may not be substantial, or at least as substantial as some may be used to. The VQ35 motor in my 350z is a good example. Great motor for what it is, but it's pretty much maxed out in NA form (without tearing into the bottom end)The VQ is a very efficient motor.
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Thats true Red. Happened to me when I bought a 5.7 GTO. Had to do full exhaust,intake and a tune to be where the LS2 was stock. Sad, but true.
I just had another thought/wonder. Any chance the new 5.0 will be tweeked from the factory, or possibly not respond very well to mods? I just thought I'd throw that question out there to get some opinions. Personally, I doubt this will be the case judging by previous Mustang GT engines. Most have responded fair to very well to mods.
I had the same thought as you did. I doubt it will be the case aswell though. It will really come down to how efficient everything is, especially head and exhaust design. I'm assuming the head will be better with the 4th valve, and VVT, but how far it was tweaked to make it run 400bhp is another question. LOL, at hoping for a non efficient motor!
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Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt
Way to go SPEED RACER. Rev to get a race and then not only do you get outlaunched but you start missing gears.
Last edited by Red Turbo Integra; 09-01-2009 at 11:08 PM.
I'm hoping/thinking they'll leave some room, not for us gear heads sake, but for their own benefit. By leaving the tune conservative, Ford can bump the power rating up after 4 years or so, without really doing anything other than retuning it... just like they did with the 2010 engine.
+2 for a non efficient engine, lol!
On the other hand, the new 3.7 making 315 horses sounds maxed out for sure.
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2009 GT/CS, Vapor Silver, Manual '
308.4 RWHP/317.4 RWTQ
13.18 at 107 mph (2.0 60')...(1,243' DA, 75 degrees)
8.58 1/8th at 85 mph
Yeah, and 400 lbs. of torque wouldn't be that hard to reach. I mean, if the 4.6L 3v can hit 325 lbs., then I'm sure a 5.0L 4v engine can hit that mark without an insane amount of engineering behind it.
I wonder if it'll have a nice powerband? Because I for one HATE the fact that my 2v V8 gets it's torque at high RPM...Makes driving in town a pain in the arse!
You being sarcastic? If not then you got the above backwards.
I'm expecting this thing to have a great set of cylinder heads, so hopefully there will be room to grow. That was the major problem with the earlier mentioned VQ35.
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