How much rwhp to hit 11s with turbo???
#42
here are a list of s197's.. many have turbos, many really fast (9 sec cars) are running 3.73s or 4.10s.. so.. depends on a lot of things... but you can see a guy running 4.10s is faster than another guy running 3.15s who is faster than someone else running 3.73s.. you just can't tell from gearing. the only correlation i've seen is some guys running twin turbos or n2o+turbo are running the 3.27s or 3.31s and those with single turbos are running 4.10s or 3.73s.
Last edited by Mishri; 01-18-2012 at 04:40 PM.
#43
Now as far as the but hurt comment you made. I'm not taking crap from the OP who has admitted he knows absoutely nothing about turbo cars other than what he's read or been told. He's bolting on his first kit and that gives him the right to be a douche bag? I dont think so.
You seem to forget this thread WAS NOT about which gears I should run. It was simply asking about a power level. If you're inferring I know nothing about turbos because I ask how much power I'd need to be able run 11s, you're sadly mistaken.
You should turn down your sensitivity level a little. One comment that wasn't even made to get under anyone's skin clearly has you bugging out.
#45
well like others said in this thread, your question is kind of a silly/noob question to ask, how much whp to reach xx.xx. there are a lot of factors to figure that out. now if you asked us what we thought you would run by slapping a turbo at 6-7psi on there and leaving it otherwise stock we can give you a better idea. but a lot of factors can go into how little whp needed based on gearing/transmission/weight vs how much you'll have to get in an otherwise stock car.. i'd say you need 400+whp if you were leaving it otherwise stock.
but that is why this discussion turned into that about gearing and tires and stall etc, because properly setup you might pull off a high 11 with only 350whp, not setup right and you might have 430whp to hit high 11s.
3.90 and above? what about all the 3.73s, MOST are running 3.73s, which shoots to **** your theory about needing 3.08's. so really, what kind of turbo setup are these guys running 3.08-3.55 in? twin turbo? turbo +n2o? the guys in the list on the top 20, 4 are running 3.27-3.55 and 5 are running 3.73-4.10 (only 1 running 4.10s but he is running faster than the guy with 3.27s)
these guys probably have tried different gearing to bring their ET down.
but that is why this discussion turned into that about gearing and tires and stall etc, because properly setup you might pull off a high 11 with only 350whp, not setup right and you might have 430whp to hit high 11s.
3.90 and above? what about all the 3.73s, MOST are running 3.73s, which shoots to **** your theory about needing 3.08's. so really, what kind of turbo setup are these guys running 3.08-3.55 in? twin turbo? turbo +n2o? the guys in the list on the top 20, 4 are running 3.27-3.55 and 5 are running 3.73-4.10 (only 1 running 4.10s but he is running faster than the guy with 3.27s)
these guys probably have tried different gearing to bring their ET down.
Last edited by Mishri; 01-18-2012 at 04:53 PM.
#46
See now this comment shows to me you don't know as much as you think about turbos. 12psi from a centri blower and 12psi from a turbo are not the same comparison. You're going to make more power with the turbo at 12psi than you will with 12psi from a centri blower. Call your speed shop buddy, he'll tell you the same thing.
#47
You don't understand that you can't just ask how much power it takes to run 11s. A geared stalled car is going to run 11s with much less power than a stock stalled 3.27 gear car will. At 6-7 psi, you won't be anywhere near 11s without the other stuff, that's the only reason it was brought up.
Edit...Mishri beat me to it, lol
Edit...Mishri beat me to it, lol
#48
PS thanks for posting that mish.
Last edited by bluebeastsrt; 01-18-2012 at 04:58 PM.
#49
You don't understand that you can't just ask how much power it takes to run 11s. A geared stalled car is going to run 11s with much less power than a stock stalled 3.27 gear car will. At 6-7 psi, you won't be anywhere near 11s without the other stuff, that's the only reason it was brought up.
Edit...Mishri beat me to it, lol
Edit...Mishri beat me to it, lol