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Old 03-30-2014, 06:46 PM
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My thing is that the motor mounts are solid and there is no vibrations at idle. The only vibrations occurs at 1800 or so rpms and with foot holding the throttle steady. The vibrations will come and go and come and go until you let off the accelerator. Its almost like a pulse, steady and smooth and than a vibration steady and smooth and than a vibration and it will continue this way for as long as you hold the pedal at those rpms.
I have the same problem, I have no money right now, but this is what I have done to troubleshoot.

Complete tuneup..quality wires, coil, plugs, air filter, fuel filter, cleaned IACV, cleaned MAF, oil change....needed it anyway.

used a vacuum gauge to test for engine issues...rock solid.

I have an 04 3.9L...internally balanced...so no issue with slipping Damper.

so I have 3 options so far

motor and or trans mounts...will change when I have money.
internal balancing rod is damaged...I have 98k miles...unlikely.
possible bent input shaft on transmission...really hope not.

anyone have any other suggestions, they are welcome.

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Old 03-30-2014, 10:07 PM
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Bent input shaft or balancing problems wouldn't rhythmically pulsate. This is a strange problem indeed.
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Old 04-11-2014, 11:57 AM
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For anyone that's been inside these engines, can this be a balance shaft issue (does it have a balance shaft)? I haven't had a Ford V6 apart yet to see if something can possibly affect the phasing or operation of the balance shaft to cause this vibration. As I said in my earlier post, I'm grasping for straws here (compression test proved all cylinders fairly even - within a few psi of each other).
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Old 04-13-2014, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by corker
For anyone that's been inside these engines, can this be a balance shaft issue (does it have a balance shaft)? I haven't had a Ford V6 apart yet to see if something can possibly affect the phasing or operation of the balance shaft to cause this vibration. As I said in my earlier post, I'm grasping for straws here (compression test proved all cylinders fairly even - within a few psi of each other).
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if your harmonic balancer behind the crank pulley has a counterweight, then it is externally balanced....easiest way to tell, if it looks like a chunk has been machined out of the HB. If the HB is smooth all around...it's internally balanced...after doing some research, i read someone say that it would take tremendous force to damage the balance shaft...grain of salt i suppose. if you have an externally balanced motor, see if the HB slipped on the rubber ring. It does happen.
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My car engine shakes when I stop at the light once in a while is this maybe a transmission mount prblem? Coz dealership told me I have broken transmission mount
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Old 04-13-2014, 11:47 AM
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Opticor, I appreciate the response. The car is back in my garage again with a cracked water pipe (one coming out of water pump) & cracked exhaust right side, again - the engine is shaking itself apart. I included some pics of the HB, from your explanation it appears to be externally balanced. The pics also show the rubber insulator between the HB and pulley - doesn't appear to have moved, but is all dry rotted from age. I think that's the next logical part to change since the engine is mechanically sound. 2000 V6 153,000 miles, 5spd. Vibration same with clutch in or out.
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Js70ne
My car engine shakes when I stop at the light once in a while is this maybe a transmission mount prblem? Coz dealership told me I have broken transmission mount
yeah, if the engine shakes that could be a problem, the trans mount is a fairly cheap replacement to find out....if you replace the trans mount and the engine still shakes, then check the engine mounts next. I need to replce mine as well and i'm hoping it fixes my vibration at around 1800 rpm.
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Originally Posted by corker
Opticor, I appreciate the response. The car is back in my garage again with a cracked water pipe (one coming out of water pump) & cracked exhaust right side, again - the engine is shaking itself apart. I included some pics of the HB, from your explanation it appears to be externally balanced. The pics also show the rubber insulator between the HB and pulley - doesn't appear to have moved, but is all dry rotted from age. I think that's the next logical part to change since the engine is mechanically sound. 2000 V6 153,000 miles, 5spd. Vibration same with clutch in or out.
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yep, that's external, good pics too it's hard to tell if the HB has slipped, they are not cheap either. i think someone said rotate the engine to TDC and check the timing marks to determine if the HB has slipped in the rubber ring. I will double check that.
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Originally Posted by corker
Opticor, I appreciate the response. The car is back in my garage again with a cracked water pipe (one coming out of water pump) & cracked exhaust right side, again - the engine is shaking itself apart. I included some pics of the HB, from your explanation it appears to be externally balanced. The pics also show the rubber insulator between the HB and pulley - doesn't appear to have moved, but is all dry rotted from age. I think that's the next logical part to change since the engine is mechanically sound. 2000 V6 153,000 miles, 5spd. Vibration same with clutch in or out.
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after doing some research, i hesitate to say it's definately the HB, but a lot of posts point to that being the problem, they say if the rubber is dryrotted and sticking out, it's a much higher chance of it being bad. i would suggest getting an HB from salvage to test with before spending over a 100 dollars for a new one. let me know how it works
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Old 04-14-2014, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Js70ne
My car engine shakes when I stop at the light once in a while is this maybe a transmission mount prblem? Coz dealership told me I have broken transmission mount
btw what year is your car? so we can determine if it's internally or externally balanced. nevermind i see it's 2000. look at corker's pics and see if your HB matches.
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