X Pipe vs. H Pipe (my review)
#1
X Pipe vs. H Pipe (my review)
I've had the (expensive) pleasure of having both an X pipe and an H pipe on my 2006 V6 within the last week and a half, so I thought I'd write a short review and clear up any uncertainly for those of you trying to decide on a dual exhaust.
Car is a completely (performance-wise) stock 2006 4.0
X pipe made by FRPP
H pipe made by JBA
Borla Stinger (straight-through) mufflers
When I mention the Y pipe, I'm comparing this to my pre-dual setup, which was a single Flowmaster AT axleback. I don't really remember what the car felt/sounded like with the stock muffler on it, so my comparisons to "stock" are assuming you have some kind of single aftermarket muffler.
I had the H pipe and Stingers on for about a week, and due to some fitment issues decided to change over to the X pipe with Stingers.
So:
Sound: H pipe is definitely nicer sounding. It's got somewhat of a deep growl to it, very aggressive muscular sound, and quite loud. The X pipe, in my opinion, sounds very similar to the stock Y, but louder. The tone doesn't change very much, just the volume. The H pipe, on the other hand, changes the tone of the sound quite a bit. However, I did notice that with the H pipe, there was a bit of popping (backfiring, I suppose) when I let off the throttle during slow shifts. The X pipe does not do this as much.
Performance: Despite what many on here have said, there is a difference in performance. With the H pipe, my car seemed to be a bit slower off the line, which I assume is due to a slight drop in torque. It's nothing major, but it is noticable. This might have been magnified by the fact that my mufflers are straight-through rather than chambered style, but it was certainly present. With the X pipe, there is no similar feeling of lag when you're launching with your car. It doesn't feel any faster to launch or drive than with the stock Y pipe (and aftermarket muffler), but I don't feel a loss at the low end like I did with the H. So, if you're considering going with a supercharger or turbo in the future, the X will probably be the most beneficial from a performance point of view.
So there you have it, H pipe sounds better, but performs worse at the low end (with straight-through mufflers, at least.)
Car is a completely (performance-wise) stock 2006 4.0
X pipe made by FRPP
H pipe made by JBA
Borla Stinger (straight-through) mufflers
When I mention the Y pipe, I'm comparing this to my pre-dual setup, which was a single Flowmaster AT axleback. I don't really remember what the car felt/sounded like with the stock muffler on it, so my comparisons to "stock" are assuming you have some kind of single aftermarket muffler.
I had the H pipe and Stingers on for about a week, and due to some fitment issues decided to change over to the X pipe with Stingers.
So:
Sound: H pipe is definitely nicer sounding. It's got somewhat of a deep growl to it, very aggressive muscular sound, and quite loud. The X pipe, in my opinion, sounds very similar to the stock Y, but louder. The tone doesn't change very much, just the volume. The H pipe, on the other hand, changes the tone of the sound quite a bit. However, I did notice that with the H pipe, there was a bit of popping (backfiring, I suppose) when I let off the throttle during slow shifts. The X pipe does not do this as much.
Performance: Despite what many on here have said, there is a difference in performance. With the H pipe, my car seemed to be a bit slower off the line, which I assume is due to a slight drop in torque. It's nothing major, but it is noticable. This might have been magnified by the fact that my mufflers are straight-through rather than chambered style, but it was certainly present. With the X pipe, there is no similar feeling of lag when you're launching with your car. It doesn't feel any faster to launch or drive than with the stock Y pipe (and aftermarket muffler), but I don't feel a loss at the low end like I did with the H. So, if you're considering going with a supercharger or turbo in the future, the X will probably be the most beneficial from a performance point of view.
So there you have it, H pipe sounds better, but performs worse at the low end (with straight-through mufflers, at least.)
#7
RE: X Pipe vs. H Pipe (my review)
ORIGINAL: 28HopUp
That pretty much confirms what others have said before. Thanks for the info! [sm=smiley20.gif]
That pretty much confirms what others have said before. Thanks for the info! [sm=smiley20.gif]
X - Little more power, exotic sounding
H - Less power than X, muscle car sounding
#8
RE: X Pipe vs. H Pipe (my review)
So my question is does anyone have what most people call "true duals" or straight pipes from cats to mufflers without any crossover? Unfortunately this is what I have. I'd bought some GT takeoffs and was so excited to get them installed but a) the drivers side cut was sloppy (I'll have to clean up with a dremel...at least it's in the right place which was my biggest fear) and b) they didn't put in any crossover like I thought they were gonna do. I thought I'd paid for an H-pipe. I admit I feel no lag or loss of low end power but it sounds R-I-C-E-Y!!!
Wonder if an H-pipe off a GT will work?
Wonder if an H-pipe off a GT will work?
#9
RE: X Pipe vs. H Pipe (my review)
ORIGINAL: trpcthndr
So my question is does anyone have what most people call "true duals" or straight pipes from cats to mufflers without any crossover? Unfortunately this is what I have. I'd bought some GT takeoffs and was so excited to get them installed but a) the drivers side cut was sloppy (I'll have to clean up with a dremel...at least it's in the right place which was my biggest fear) and b) they didn't put in any crossover like I thought they were gonna do. I thought I'd paid for an H-pipe. I admit I feel no lag or loss of low end power but it sounds R-I-C-E-Y!!!
Wonder if an H-pipe off a GT will work?
So my question is does anyone have what most people call "true duals" or straight pipes from cats to mufflers without any crossover? Unfortunately this is what I have. I'd bought some GT takeoffs and was so excited to get them installed but a) the drivers side cut was sloppy (I'll have to clean up with a dremel...at least it's in the right place which was my biggest fear) and b) they didn't put in any crossover like I thought they were gonna do. I thought I'd paid for an H-pipe. I admit I feel no lag or loss of low end power but it sounds R-I-C-E-Y!!!
Wonder if an H-pipe off a GT will work?
#10
RE: X Pipe vs. H Pipe (my review)
So quick question about the H's loss in power
how will it compare to the stock set up?
currently i've got a single gt takeoff and i definitely notice a gain, will putting the H with two gt takeoffs be less power than a single gt takeoff?
how will it compare to the stock set up?
currently i've got a single gt takeoff and i definitely notice a gain, will putting the H with two gt takeoffs be less power than a single gt takeoff?