hi guys,i wanna put a 460 in the 88 gt..and i was asken if i need to do any thing else before i start...jegs has this kit to get started http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_400252_-1

but do i need to change anything else..springs k member its an aod(can it bolt up?..or need c6?)...also i got the sloozy 460...what heads and cam do i need to wake it up(not MONSTER HP jus 375-400 crank HP)-thanks guys-P.S sry for all the quastions lol

yea it can be done... but 2 things... that big of a motor, why shooting for such low hp? why not go balls out stroke it to 521 and kick some ass with it

or, 347, 306 and get that power

well i love big blocks...and i want it to be "somewhat streetable" lol....i would realy like400-450 horse lol

what year bbf are you looking at ? the old 460's in the late 60's lincolns push 425 stock .i agree with dimebag if you gonna run bbf goes balls to the wall , make it a neck breaker .if all you want is a little over 400 hp i would look for a late 60's lincoln mark series 460 like i said they are already about 425hp stock.

they never came with that much, ur thinkin of the 427 fe motors. no the most thse motors came with stock was 375. Now, ur combo completely depends on what ur budget is. There are plenty of options, but seeing as how ur goal is so limited then go with some DOVE, C9 or C8 heads, stock, and put a comp solid roller in it with a stealth or torquer intake on a stock bottom end and be done. ORIGINAL: stangbanger87

what year bbf are you looking at ? the old 460's in the late 60's lincolns push 425 stock .i agree with dimebag if you gonna run bbf goes balls to the wall , make it a neck breaker .if all you want is a little over 400 hp i would look for a late 60's lincoln mark series 460 like i said they are already about 425hp stock.

1968 lincold with suicude doors have a 425 hp 460 in them at least all the ones i have seen have the 460 /425 hp sticker on the air cleaner , i know the 427's make good hp but good luck finding one , although i have seen quite a few 429 cj' and scj's for sale lateley , i could be wrong on the lincoln 460's but i am just going on what i have seen ,
another good hp bbf are the 390 hipo and the 390 pi's they make good power ,use a set of 429 heads on them and they are real beast's

ok, listen not one thing you said here was correct, the 385 engine series NEVER came with more than 375 rated at he factory, the ones u saw may have been modded or something but they did not have that power stock. Now the FE motors and the 385 series motors are COMPLETELY different so you couldnt just throw 429 heads on an fe it wont work. unless you ment the 427. but you are right, the 390s are very very good motors, I know cause I own one:DORIGINAL: stangbanger87

1968 lincold with suicude doors have a 425 hp 460 in them at least all the ones i have seen have the 460 /425 hp sticker on the air cleaner , i know the 427's make good hp but good luck finding one , although i have seen quite a few 429 cj' and scj's for sale lateley , i could be wrong on the lincoln 460's but i am just going on what i have seen ,
another good hp bbf are the 390 hipo and the 390 pi's they make good power ,use a set of 429 heads on them and they are real beast's

your right i have em backwards ,i am like that with my numbers ,i was looking at a 429 cj forsale while i was typeing , i ment 427.i know the 390's are bad @$$ i had a 66 fairlane gt with a 390 pi out of a 64 galaxy police car , that car was flat fast i thought , man i still wish i had that car :(. no hard feelin's ih8checy ,because we share the same hate for chevy;). i tell ya what tho i have seen 1 427 ford in a speed shop for sale when i was like 15 , they wanted 16k for it then it was susposed to have been built by shelby ?

yea no hard feelings stangbanger, its all good. yea man those 427 fe's are so expensive, i saw a sideoiler block the other day just the block for 7500 dollars. Your much better off with the 429/460 for not only power potential but cost. I love them 66 fairlanes, they are tied with my car, 69 torino, for my favorite car ever. If I had the money I would definately put a 385 series motor in one of them and rape chevy's all day, but im still poor. oh and yea chevy sucks.

if your (op) really concidering a big block, pm me...

what type of torino do you have , gt talladega ,flat torino , and yeah here lately where i live (ohio) i have seen alot of 429's come up for sale around here , and man i really wish i still had my old fairlane ,it made 396 chevelles look like chevette's :D,but i ran into money trouble a while back and she had to go , and the guy who bought it his boy took it to his high school prom and totaled it after the prom leaveing aparty drunk as a skunk, i was sick for a week after .i would recomend a 390 to any one who is looking for a good big block .don't get me wrong 460's are good (the older ones ) but i always liked the 390bbf .

i have a 69 torino vert, being painted right now, its gonna be beautiful car. yea those 396 motors were really not taht good stock, I mean sharing the same characteristics as a 454 they can be made to go fast cheap, but stock 390's would eat em up. Man that sucks about that guy what an idiot, I think I would shoot him if that were my former car. and yea its ashame the 390 is so f*cking expensive to make fast other wise I would love to put on in my fox. but the 460 is a very good replacement.

agreed they are expensive to build , i have seen a 89 gt with a 66 390 hipo in it for sale around here but it wasn't finished it need wired and shft put in and just a bunch of odds and ends but man when he jumped it over to hear it run it sounded sweet .can you pm me some pics of that torino vert , i don't think i have seen one around here , just the hard top and fast backsand gt's , and 1 torino cobra, it is funny because my first car was a 76 gran torino i loved it to it wasn't fast but it was a nice ride

I would be trying to get atleast 500 horse out of a 460, you gotta add in the extra weight

the extra weight is barely 200 lbs, so thats what 2 tenths if the power output is the sames as the 302. and its easily gonna be faster. The torque alone will cover what that wieght adds on. ORIGINAL: stang8689

I would be trying to get atleast 500 horse out of a 460, you gotta add in the extra weight

Yeah, the powerhouse early 460's in the Lincolns were 365hp with 500lb.ft.
Use the later model D3VE heads with some 10 to 1 compression pistons unless you are going with aftermarket aluminum heads.

Actually Doves would be better for his setup, b/c its seems as though he wants just a bolt on 460, and with D3' s they have gigantic 97 or so cc chambers lowering the cr a good bit. So the doves would up the cr, with slightly better intake and exhaust performance. But good luckORIGINAL: lxman1

Yeah, the powerhouse early 460's in the Lincolns were 365hp with 500lb.ft.
Use the later model D3VE heads with some 10 to 1 compression pistons unless you are going with aftermarket aluminum heads.

wow i didnt know ford made so much big v8 power :D

thats b/c you wont hear about it. the nhra mags are all chevy biased and they all say the same thing, bbc is the only bb out there to make power with. and the net dont help either sites like this wont even support a bb section, the mods:eek:in there all ignorance wont see to it, yet there is a section strictly for cop foxes.[:@] anyway yea the 460 block a standard 2 bolt oem block is good for over 800 hp and torque, and the factory heads some can support up to 850 or so hp, like the dooe-r heads and the passenger car heads, dove, c9ve, c8ve, can support over 700 hp.The reason u dont see so much is cause of factory bakcing which ford does very little of with these motors, mostly b/c of Bob Glidden, but thats another story and chevy gets a ton of factory backing.ORIGINAL: pimpinstang1

wow i didnt know ford made so much big v8 power :D

hmmm maybe i should start looking for a 460 around town maybe i can find me a ford motor somewhere. i seen plenty of 390s but if i can find me something bigger than the 460 i might have to look into it.

well a 390 is a great motor, but its expensive to mod and make real fast. the 460 is a great platform for a motor, I wish you luck.

the 390's are scarce any more and ih8chevy is right that bbf's don't get much backing or advertisement as the bbc.
and while i am at it one thing that makes me sick to my stomach is the hybrid foxes runnin sbc's under the hood .if you want to build a sbc run it in a monza or vega or camaro or some **** like that not in a ford , and i feel they are played out in hot rods as well, nothin worse than looking at a beautiful 32 ford and seeing a bow tie engine in it , all just because you can get a cam from a vending machine at odd lots for 2.99 and it will ru ya for a min. i think absolutely sucks .
i feel if you are going to redo a specific vehicle make you should stick with their power plant jmo.
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yea i know, everyone is tired of it.

sorry i had to let it out , you brought up the sponsor and backing thing and it just hit a nerve this morning . a guy i used to work with claimed he was a advid ford fanatic and now him and his brother are right now building a fox for wild street drag and the are useing a sbc in it i went and looked at the car , spit a big ole luggy on it got in my truck and went home , such a put down to ford and mustang totally !

no no ur right, we are all tired of this bull****. but it would require ford getting off its ass and starting to support hte bb world much more, then the sb world will follow.

yep so us die hards will just keep it going as we have for years so far .

thats what im going do. and when i get more money im going to buy a 69 chevelle and drop a bbf in it. I love them cars but always knew that the motor was wrong;)

i do know of a guy by my dads with a 79 z-280 bracket car runnin a 351w in it . he told my dad that he pisses the chevy guys off alot .

haha thats awesome, there was a guy who put a 351 cleveland in a 80 trans am and would beat up the chevy guys all the time and they would get real pissed. back in the day dandy dick landy put a big in hemi in a 63 vette, that got a lot of attention from the bowtie nuts especially when it won the all chevy show it was at.:D

http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/579300738.htmlnice price but i dunno if it really is a 460 or not.

yea that is a 460 or 429 pending on the crank or something way bigger who knows.

good price ima call later on tomorrow see if he has it :D whats a good transmission to go with it?

stick or auto?

stick well u could use a tko5 or 600 i believe and obviously a toploader

auto a c6 will work very well if you want to use a c4 all u need is a bellhousing and some beefed upparts.

yeh that camareo is a 10.50 car . i have heard rumor of ford makeing a 490 . i have never seen one or found specs on one in any books do you know if it really exist's or not . i have seen the 360's 352's and such but never this suposed 490.my uncle swears he had one in an old ford truck he had but i just want to be sure as you know how people are they get engine size mixed up . i had a guy tell me once his s-10 had a 350 v-6 in it :D

i havent heard of the 490 but it may have existed in the "M" series motors. I cant be sure so dont quote me. a 350 v6 ehh, haha, well u should have said that ur stang was a 4 cylinder and raced him.;)

yeah i guess i could have told him it was only runnin on one side so i can only use every other gear :D. i was just wondering about that engine i have heard of it several time from several people .
if any one is interested i have a built c-6 that came out of my old torino. pm me and i tell ya more .

Okay here we go.... i actually just joined soo i could post this now.lol but i was gonna any way.

the Ford 490 WAS made but it only came in like OLD dump trucks and BIG Ford trucks not available innon commercial vehicle.
i got a 95 GT im putting a 500hp 429 in and gonna make the original injection system work. any questions on it let me know i got a LOT of answers and done A LOT of research.
matthew

bbstang the oringal injection comp a9 is that what you are using? What type of heads and setup using? cam, intake, compression, bottom end?

have u gone to www.460ford.com (http://www.460ford.com)? they are awesome there.

im not sure on the puter for the car really havent cared to look// will worry later lol
the heads are DOVE-A ported, matched, larger valves, dual springs (matched to cam), roller rockers, 600 lift hydro cam, torker intake ported and matched, 11.5 to 1 ratio and dooe-r rods with stock crank and dove-a block :)

sounds like a solid build. how big is the motor gonna be? bore size and stroke? your gonna be makin tons of torque with them dove heads.

429 ci stock size im gonna make a custom intake later and im putting dual throttle bodys on for a multiport intake with 16 injectors and twin paxton superchargers :)

damn, ur gonna be breakin that block pretty soon then. lol might as well start off with a motorsport A460 block.

too much money besides the twin supercharged block will be built to handle that and its gonna have a set of boss 429 heads on it :) im gonna go with a 4 bolt main block converted to a 6 bolt main and then have the main girdles go to the oil pan bolts so NO movement :):D i got this WELL thought out

ORIGINAL: 95BBStang

im gonna go with a 4 bolt main block converted to a 6 bolt main and then have the main girdles go to the oil pan bolts so NO movement



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why so funny? its been done i would know I DID IT on another block and we were pushing 1600 hp to the street and that was 7 years ago and the motors is still being beatten up and still original work done by me

An A460 block isto expensive, but it's ok to custom build main caps and somehow make a girdle to the oil pan rails, buy twin SC's and come up with boss 429 heads.


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a brand new A460 block is 2100 dollars, that aint bad. And you know its good for at least 2000 hp. IMO its a better investment then the 5 or 6 blocks ur gonna go through. But good luck.

i went through 31 429/ (pre-79) 460 before i found the one i used for the 1600hp cari built. if you know what to look for you can still use a stock block and the A460 wont run on the street and not over heat even with the water jackets. and too much expansion in the block and too much warpage, wont be reliable! and i have 2 set of 429 boss heads. and im gonna be runnin twin sc's and the plenium to handle it :) just time and money but im gonna run 9's and drive home with a/c and radio and drive to work the next day :);)

well may i ask, what was the combo for the 1600 hp motor? a big ass blower?

Does anyone know of a 390 in a Fox Mustang that has been completed? I've got a 4cyl coupe and I've been considering a 390 project for a long time. I have some stuff for it already, an old holley street dominator intake, GT heads, a block that may or may not be good, etc..

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i did the 427 side oiler in a 87 fox. twisted the frame lol but i also didnt resuport the body either. can be done!!

the 1600hp was on a 11.5 to 1 800hp base and then a experimental paxton from paxton themselves, worked great for me but they didnt end up making it cause it started out needing too much oil pressure for most motors and mine just ended up be just right lol .

the 390 is a tough motor to do this with, cause their are no real fe motor mounts or plates to adapt to a fox. that dont mean it cant be done. Also I hope that you have some money to spend on aftermarket for these motors, cause its expensive and it isnt as abundant as the 385 series motors.

hope this helpsORIGINAL: JalapenoNotch0

Does anyone know of a 390 in a Fox Mustang that has been completed? I've got a 4cyl coupe and I've been considering a 390 project for a long time. I have some stuff for it already, an old holley street dominator intake, GT heads, a block that may or may not be good, etc..

The motor mounts and frame mounts would be the biggest problem. I've had the idea of making a block plate before, but that would create other problems. If you could tell me how that was done I'd appreciate it!

As far as building the engine and finding parts, I know 390's backwords and forwards. I probably wouldn't have to go much over stock to make enough power to make a coupe fast. Olny a little over 1hp per cubic inch would be an easy 400hp. Setting it up for nitrous would be evenmore fun. I've got 3 sets of heads including a set of 16 bolt exhaust pattern GT heads. Actually, almost everyting but a rebuild kit and some way to get it in a fox.

I know the 385 series is easier to work with here, but I want something different. How often do you see a Mustang with an FE? I think a lot of younger people these days wouldn't know what it was.

I have plenty of time to think though, this project is a ways off.

D & D makes swap kits to put an FE in a fox stang, including headers.
http://www.ddautospec.com/products_engineswap.html

I've seen a few running in NHRA SS/GT classes..

ORIGINAL: Gary H

D & D makes swap kits to put an FE in a fox stang, including headers.
http://www.ddautospec.com/products_engineswap.html

I've seen a few running in NHRA SS/GT classes..


Thanks for the link. That answers a lot of things I was wondering about. It would be pretty expensive using all of their swap parts. I wonder how much of it I could make.

to the original poster, how is the progress?