Mustang Forums   Mustang Classifieds   Photo Gallery   Calendars   Search   Live Chat   Contact MF   Sponsors
  Mustang Recalls   Mustang TSB's   News   Timeslips   Timeline   Wallpaper   Member List   Register   Login

Worth getting?

  Printable Version
Mustang >> Ford Mustang Tech >> 4.6 (Modular) Mustang >> Mach 1 Section >> Worth getting? Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 7:40:07 PM   
jv101


Posts: 197
Joined: 4/25/2008
Status: offline
So i found a local mustang Mach 1. Has a few mods, 5 spd, azzure blue w/ 58k miles on it. Guy wants $12k obo. However on dyno he said if threw a rod through the block. would it be worth getting and fixing? and how much would it cost to fix? (I/my dad are pretty mechanically inclined and have pulled and rebuilt a few motors in our day, plus we have many decent hook ups w/ shops and auto parts)

so is it worth getting and fixing? if i can get it for under 12k?
Post #: 1
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 7:55:29 PM   
GThopeful


Posts: 1142
Joined: 5/19/2006
Status: offline
I know which Mach youre talking about. Cory's right?

Thing is beautiful and IMO worth it. I wouldnt think it would be too much to fix.

_____________________________

02 GT

Yea...it has a few things.

(in reply to jv101)
Post #: 2
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 8:03:14 PM   
jv101


Posts: 197
Joined: 4/25/2008
Status: offline
^^ yep^^

it looks amazing, im not a blue person, but i love it!

i really want to find out how much you guys will think it will cost

(in reply to GThopeful)
Post #: 3
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 8:25:46 PM   
GThopeful


Posts: 1142
Joined: 5/19/2006
Status: offline
I'd love to know how much it would be too. Seems like someone would be getting a steal!

Whats the full extent of the damage do you know? He messaged me the night it happened and said the car was done, but never got specific with it.

_____________________________

02 GT

Yea...it has a few things.

(in reply to jv101)
Post #: 4
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 8:27:03 PM   
USMCrebel

 

Posts: 4025
Joined: 3/13/2007
From: Huntsville, AL
Status: offline
pics and more info please

_____________________________

2003 Ox Wht Mach 1 1:814
bone stock
Her name is Melanie

***kill list***
Srt-4 stg2 S197 GT
Built v6 maro
00 T/a (3)
Marauder
97 T/A
foxbody
2004 GT
SRT8 Charger
5.4 swapped F150
95cobra

(in reply to jv101)
Post #: 5
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 8:34:26 PM   
jv101


Posts: 197
Joined: 4/25/2008
Status: offline
just said it put a rod through the block when it was on the dyno..

pics:
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...ysmach1009.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...ysmach1008.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...ysmach1007.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...ysmach1006.jpg

will get more info asap

(in reply to USMCrebel)
Post #: 6
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 8:44:10 PM   
USMCrebel

 

Posts: 4025
Joined: 3/13/2007
From: Huntsville, AL
Status: offline
if the rod deal is true, no it's not worth 12k or whatever, an engine for one of these costs 7k......and no way a rolling chasis is gonna cost 12k.

_____________________________

2003 Ox Wht Mach 1 1:814
bone stock
Her name is Melanie

***kill list***
Srt-4 stg2 S197 GT
Built v6 maro
00 T/a (3)
Marauder
97 T/A
foxbody
2004 GT
SRT8 Charger
5.4 swapped F150
95cobra

(in reply to jv101)
Post #: 7
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 8:52:23 PM   
jv101


Posts: 197
Joined: 4/25/2008
Status: offline
ah alright, another quick question

how much do you think it would cost to take a manual mach 1 or even GT and turn it into an automatic? and could i use any 99-04 mustang trans?

(in reply to USMCrebel)
Post #: 8
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 8:55:07 PM   
USMCrebel

 

Posts: 4025
Joined: 3/13/2007
From: Huntsville, AL
Status: offline
hrmm, i dunno i've never done the swap before man. cost of the 4R75W + converter, and some random other pieces i would say probably near 3 grand

_____________________________

2003 Ox Wht Mach 1 1:814
bone stock
Her name is Melanie

***kill list***
Srt-4 stg2 S197 GT
Built v6 maro
00 T/a (3)
Marauder
97 T/A
foxbody
2004 GT
SRT8 Charger
5.4 swapped F150
95cobra

(in reply to jv101)
Post #: 9
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 9:01:37 PM   
jv101


Posts: 197
Joined: 4/25/2008
Status: offline
ok thanks... i really want a mach 1... but all the good priced ones are 5spds. and im not sure i want a 5sp. i mean i dont do alot of city driving, i do alot of back road country driving... i am decent as stick right now... as always first and reverse are the hardest!

(in reply to USMCrebel)
Post #: 10
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 9:06:14 PM   
USMCrebel

 

Posts: 4025
Joined: 3/13/2007
From: Huntsville, AL
Status: offline
yep, getting better comes with practice, trust me back roads with a stick are much more fun than an auto....i live in a po dunk town!

_____________________________

2003 Ox Wht Mach 1 1:814
bone stock
Her name is Melanie

***kill list***
Srt-4 stg2 S197 GT
Built v6 maro
00 T/a (3)
Marauder
97 T/A
foxbody
2004 GT
SRT8 Charger
5.4 swapped F150
95cobra

(in reply to jv101)
Post #: 11
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 9:14:57 PM   
03MachMe

 

Posts: 77
Joined: 5/1/2008
Status: offline
get the stick you will be happy you did. plus the auto machs dont come with a forged crank and the sticks do. if you dont do city driving then get the stick no problem will take a little while to learn but well worth it in the end.

_____________________________


2003 Mach 1
spec stage 1 clutch
pro 5.0 shifter
K&N CAI
O/R H
Flows
17x9,17x10.5 Black FR500s

(in reply to USMCrebel)
Post #: 12
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 9:26:01 PM   
jv101


Posts: 197
Joined: 4/25/2008
Status: offline
yeh i guess, just comes down to if i want to spend the money. I was originally looking for a gt for around $6k and then adding some nice little extras (supercharger and flowmaster)

(in reply to 03MachMe)
Post #: 13
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 9:32:16 PM   
USMCrebel

 

Posts: 4025
Joined: 3/13/2007
From: Huntsville, AL
Status: offline
dude if you've got access to a shop buy a gt body of any year, and nuild you a car! you'll learn so much more and enjoy it even more. for example if i had the money (baby on the way) i would buy a '99 v6 rolling chasis an 08 navi motor break that motor down put forged rods in her throw 2 turbo's and a big rear mount intercooler and feed the IC with NOS to super cool the air and BAM Z06 KILLER/ Viper Killer.

_____________________________

2003 Ox Wht Mach 1 1:814
bone stock
Her name is Melanie

***kill list***
Srt-4 stg2 S197 GT
Built v6 maro
00 T/a (3)
Marauder
97 T/A
foxbody
2004 GT
SRT8 Charger
5.4 swapped F150
95cobra

(in reply to jv101)
Post #: 14
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 9:36:22 PM   
jv101


Posts: 197
Joined: 4/25/2008
Status: offline
lol, i was actaully thinking on doing that... i have been told its a big headache w/ swaping in a v8 motor and such. dont really need a viper killer either. just want a 300-350ish hp DD. that will kill whatever i come across. or def. give it a run for its money

i told myself if i got a mustang id want to keep it under 8k...unless it was a mach 1 then under 12k lol. kind of weighing out my options here. mach 1 would get better mpg and i wouldnt have to use 93 gas as if i had a turbo/supercharged gt

(in reply to USMCrebel)
Post #: 15
RE: Worth getting? - 5/13/2008 10:52:53 PM   
03MachMe

 

Posts: 77
Joined: 5/1/2008
Status: offline
first you would have to use 93 octane with the mach they require it from the factory. and to find one under 12k?? good luck your looking at at least 16k if it has decent miles. but building your own can be fun but i went with a mach over a gt just for the simple fact that it has a 4V motor. they are easier to mod they start out at prolly 280 to the wheels. it would take almost a full bolt on GT to run with a stock mach. trust me go for the mach if at all possible you will be happier in the long run. then later if you want to build a really really fast car all you have to do is build the bottom end and slap some boost in there and your good to go


_____________________________


2003 Mach 1
spec stage 1 clutch
pro 5.0 shifter
K&N CAI
O/R H
Flows
17x9,17x10.5 Black FR500s

(in reply to jv101)
Post #: 16
RE: Worth getting? - 5/14/2008 1:43:25 AM   
Subotai_95


Posts: 1275
Joined: 2/16/2008
From: BFE, Texas
Status: online
^^^ +1 That's exactly what I started doing with mine. Though I went about it bass-ackwards and slapped the boost and the bolt-ons  on before I got the forged itnernals.  lol It's still much more worth it than a GT would be. Next project if/when I can afford it is a KB boost-a-pump so I can turn up the boost a little more.

But yah, I'd definitely have to agree with 03machme on that one OP. You'll definitely be happier in the long run with the Mach than you would be with GT. Hell, with headers/mids/exhaust/CAI and a good tune I wouldn't think you'd be sitting on my less than 325 or 330 to the wheels brudda, as the mach's were under-rated coming out of the factory anyway.

_____________________________



04 Mach 1 w/ ATI P1 S/C-2 Inter-cooled, Brembo brakes/lines, SLP ceramic coated headers & Cat'd H-pipe w/LM2 exhaust, Nitto 555R 275/40 17's

(in reply to 03MachMe)
Post #: 17
RE: Worth getting? - 5/14/2008 6:28:54 AM   
USMCrebel

 

Posts: 4025
Joined: 3/13/2007
From: Huntsville, AL
Status: offline
another thing you could look at is the SN95 4.6 32v cobra you can find a decent mileage one for ~6-10k their block is good to 1k hp( ferrari cast the aluminum block )

_____________________________

2003 Ox Wht Mach 1 1:814
bone stock
Her name is Melanie

***kill list***
Srt-4 stg2 S197 GT
Built v6 maro
00 T/a (3)
Marauder
97 T/A
foxbody
2004 GT
SRT8 Charger
5.4 swapped F150
95cobra

(in reply to Subotai_95)
Post #: 18
RE: Worth getting? - 5/14/2008 7:49:59 AM   
groundpounder

 


Posts: 4738
Joined: 1/24/2005
Status: offline
groundpounder's photo gallery
So basically we have a Mach with a rod through the block for $12K

Upper half of the engine good? Tranny/clutch assembly OK? All accessories in working order? Nothing else hurt on the car except a rod poking it's head through the side of the block, as in no holes in the pan? Chards of metal in the heads, scoring the cams? Combustion chamber integrity still in tact?

When rebel was asking for more info, this is the kind of things he (and we) needed to know, jv, and here's why:

If all of that stuff is OK - and you didn't tell us, you just blew off rebel - then you might be on to something here. You can get a Livernois fully forged 4.6 4V shortblock good to 1,000 HP for $4K or a DSS 5.3L Big Bore fully forged stroker short block for $6.5K and make 400 RWHP naturally aspirated.

You offer this guy $10K and if he bites and you do your own work, then for anywhere from $15-18K, you're going to have yourself one unbelievably badass car that you and your dad built. One that will, with one power adder - say a 250 two stage nitrous shot - run low 10's all day long and be a reliable DD.

_____________________________

quote:

Acer2428
If MF were a Disney movie, I'd be the retarded step-brother who eventually saves everyone by hitting the burgular over the head with a frying pan and then clapping my hands all retarded-like.

(in reply to USMCrebel)
Post #: 19
RE: Worth getting? - 6/14/2008 10:42:34 PM   
Farvardeen

 

Posts: 5
Joined: 6/14/2008
Status: offline
i like the way ground put it... just offer the guy $10K, its not worth it for the 12K considering the time you would have to put into fixing it up.

(in reply to groundpounder)
Post #: 20
Login OR Register now to post a reply to this forum topic.
Page:   [1]

 

 
Mustang Forum >> Ford Mustang Tech >> 4.6 (Modular) Mustang >> Mach 1 Section
Jump to:
Forum Rules & FAQ
Today's Posts
Most Active Topics
RSS Feeds
Make A Donation

Mustangs:
Classic Mustang
Mustang II
Fox Body Mustang
sn95 Mustang
New Edge Mustang
s197 Mustang
Mustang Clubs
2007 GT500 Mustang
2009 Mustang
Ford Mustang Prices


Featured Sponsors
Advertising Info

Top 10 Posters
pro50sc17752
nanaki14679
88bluegt14516
dan04cobra14505
addermk213833
ride of the 13601
hotrods_n_bo13285
2000gt4.612490
mustangman0211860
1slo8511636

New Vendors
BMR Fabrication
Year One
Auto Badges
Trickflow
Speedware Motorsports
LTM Global
Late Model Restoration
Southern Mustang Parts
4walls
BrandMotion

MustangForums.com is not affiliated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.