2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
#21
RE: 2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
I'm an old time carb guy too. Especially on bikes. I'm just now getting into this mapping stuff. But I have to admit EFI gives you more felxability and HP than any carb setup. But you just have to love the punch of double pumpers or when the secondaries kick in. Regradless of what you like though, THAT IS ONE AWESOME FORD! What a slick car. I'm sure there are a few pennies and a lot of talent that went into it.
#22
RE: 2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
ORIGINAL: Sherwood06GT
OLD Technology. Frequent tune ups, spark plug replacement, points, high fuel consumption, alternators, etc., etc. No thanks, not for a daily driver. Engines like that are for the enthusiast who likes to pour money and time into their car on a non-stop basis. It looks good though.
OLD Technology. Frequent tune ups, spark plug replacement, points, high fuel consumption, alternators, etc., etc. No thanks, not for a daily driver. Engines like that are for the enthusiast who likes to pour money and time into their car on a non-stop basis. It looks good though.
#23
RE: 2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
ORIGINAL: Virgule
On top of that, it's probably not an aluminum block, so he screwed the pooch on destroying the handling capability of a standard GT. Adding 200 pounds to the front end a modern Mustang altered all kinds of things, including polar moment and center of gravity. He may go like a bat-outa-hell in a straight line, but a V6 will take him on a track with curves.
ORIGINAL: Sherwood06GT
OLD Technology. Frequent tune ups, spark plug replacement, points, high fuel consumption, alternators, etc., etc. No thanks, not for a daily driver. Engines like that are for the enthusiast who likes to pour money and time into their car on a non-stop basis. It looks good though.
OLD Technology. Frequent tune ups, spark plug replacement, points, high fuel consumption, alternators, etc., etc. No thanks, not for a daily driver. Engines like that are for the enthusiast who likes to pour money and time into their car on a non-stop basis. It looks good though.
#24
RE: 2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
ORIGINAL: Virgule
On top of that, it's probably not an aluminum block, so he screwed the pooch on destroying the handling capability of a standard GT. Adding 200 pounds to the front end a modern Mustang altered all kinds of things, including polar moment and center of gravity. He may go like a bat-outa-hell in a straight line, but a V6 will take him on a track with curves.
On top of that, it's probably not an aluminum block, so he screwed the pooch on destroying the handling capability of a standard GT. Adding 200 pounds to the front end a modern Mustang altered all kinds of things, including polar moment and center of gravity. He may go like a bat-outa-hell in a straight line, but a V6 will take him on a track with curves.
Anyways, That is an absolute beaut!! awesome 555
And yes EFI will always produce more Hp on the same motor......
#26
RE: 2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
i still disagree that EFI will produce more hp than a carb'ed engine. carburetors are worse for cold starts, longevity, reliability, mpg, etc. but they simply mix fuel and air in far greater quantities....more than most modern EFI can handle. look at any 8.0L engine or something ridiculously big...it's carb'ed 95% of the time. why? more hp.
in theory, maybe an EFI engine should produce more hp, but right now only the most expensive and state-of-the-art EFI's can mix fuel/air in as great of quantities as a carburetor. all the highest hp n/a engines i've seen are carb'ed...even today.
in theory, maybe an EFI engine should produce more hp, but right now only the most expensive and state-of-the-art EFI's can mix fuel/air in as great of quantities as a carburetor. all the highest hp n/a engines i've seen are carb'ed...even today.
#27
RE: 2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
Power is a delicate balance, this is specially true when it comes to AF Ratios.... too much fuel or air is detrimental to achieving maximun power......
Obviously, the EFI system must be matched to the capabilities of the engine to combust the mix..... EFI has more precise, granular control of the fuel mixture than a carb will ever dream of having....... tuning becomes the crucial difference, ask any tunner about this....which method gives him/her more control over the mixture.......
that said, carbed cars are beautiful under the hood, and don't get me wrong the right tunner can perform miracles with it, but it just doesn't compare to the computational capabilities of a modern EFI system......
just my .02
Obviously, the EFI system must be matched to the capabilities of the engine to combust the mix..... EFI has more precise, granular control of the fuel mixture than a carb will ever dream of having....... tuning becomes the crucial difference, ask any tunner about this....which method gives him/her more control over the mixture.......
that said, carbed cars are beautiful under the hood, and don't get me wrong the right tunner can perform miracles with it, but it just doesn't compare to the computational capabilities of a modern EFI system......
just my .02
#28
RE: 2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
ORIGINAL: imyy4u
i still disagree that EFI will produce more hp than a carb'ed engine. carburetors are worse for cold starts, longevity, reliability, mpg, etc. but they simply mix fuel and air in far greater quantities....more than most modern EFI can handle. look at any 8.0L engine or something ridiculously big...it's carb'ed 95% of the time. why? more hp.
i still disagree that EFI will produce more hp than a carb'ed engine. carburetors are worse for cold starts, longevity, reliability, mpg, etc. but they simply mix fuel and air in far greater quantities....more than most modern EFI can handle. look at any 8.0L engine or something ridiculously big...it's carb'ed 95% of the time. why? more hp.
While you are correct that most of the 1000HP + applications are typically carb'd, it has little to do with "more HP"
Reasons are:
1. availability of MAFs that are tuned for that quantitiy of air-flow (a function of demand for such parts, not ability to make them)
2. rules of sanctioning bodies - not a lot of 1000HP+ cars on the road, so you have to look at why people build such cars - to race them in events that have lots of rules...
So, you can disagree all you want, the level of control that EFI has over vacuum based fuel metering coupled with control over atomization and not having to tune the entire setup for one bad spot mean that apples to apples EFI makes more power...
I don't think anyone here is trying to detract from the appeal of that setup. It may not be able to turn or do much more than burn the rear tires off, but it is still cool...
#29
RE: 2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
Sorry to interupt the debate.... but wouldn't this have been an awesome upgrade option straight from the factory!!!!?
That motor looks hot as hell in there!! [sm=drooldude.gif]
That motor looks hot as hell in there!! [sm=drooldude.gif]
#30
RE: 2005 Mustang with 427 Carbed Motor(Pics)
ORIGINAL: cryptic26djp
Sorry to interupt the debate.... but wouldn't this have been an awesome upgrade option straight from the factory!!!!?
That motor looks hot as hell in there!! [sm=drooldude.gif]
Sorry to interupt the debate.... but wouldn't this have been an awesome upgrade option straight from the factory!!!!?
That motor looks hot as hell in there!! [sm=drooldude.gif]