Pros and Cons of a S/C
11-13-2006, 12:20 AM
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RE: Pros and Cons of a S/C
MSgt46270, I was told that the Saleen kit did come with everything you needed to get up and running. If not what else would I need? BTW amiller and 05mustang those are some sweet looking engine bays. That's what I'm hoping for. But seriously, I thought the saleen kit was pretty complete. I'd like to hear more details on what else it would take.
11-13-2006, 12:44 AM
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MSgt46270, I was told that the Saleen kit did come with everything you needed to get up and running. If not what else would I need? BTW amiller and 05mustang those are some sweet looking engine bays. That's what I'm hoping for. But seriously, I thought the saleen kit was pretty complete. I'd like to hear more details on what else it would take.
MSgt46270, I was told that the Saleen kit did come with everything you needed to get up and running. If not what else would I need? BTW amiller and 05mustang those are some sweet looking engine bays. That's what I'm hoping for. But seriously, I thought the saleen kit was pretty complete. I'd like to hear more details on what else it would take.
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11-13-2006, 01:24 AM
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RE: Pros and Cons of a S/C
PRO: TONS OF POWER!!!
CONS: Anytime you add more power you run the risk of breaking internals. Not to mention that some of the shops are a pain in the @ss when it comes to warranty and repairs after you install aftermarket parts.
CONS: Anytime you add more power you run the risk of breaking internals. Not to mention that some of the shops are a pain in the @ss when it comes to warranty and repairs after you install aftermarket parts.
11-13-2006, 01:38 AM
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RE: Pros and Cons of a S/C
I want one too 
in my opinion, a positive displacement blower like saleen/roush/k-b would be better for a 'everyday ' car, as torque increases are always right there just off idle- so even just everyday quiet driving would be more fun- for racing a positive displacement might make less sense- centrifugals weigh less(I think) and are less expensive- more bang for the buck...but for off idle /part throttle torque, positive displacement is always providing about the same pressure regardless of rpm - once the bypass valve closes anyways- could be another plus for saleen/roush-not sure if k-b has one... at very light throttle its basically not doing anything to keep mpg up. possible plus for a centrifugal though, is keeping the 'charge motion plates' for part throttle efficiency (probably helps emissions a lot too) would be an option- I havent seen any positive displacement kits that allow CMCP to stay...I'm sure ford put them there for at least one reason- but not for peak hp...
in my opinion, a positive displacement blower like saleen/roush/k-b would be better for a 'everyday ' car, as torque increases are always right there just off idle- so even just everyday quiet driving would be more fun- for racing a positive displacement might make less sense- centrifugals weigh less(I think) and are less expensive- more bang for the buck...but for off idle /part throttle torque, positive displacement is always providing about the same pressure regardless of rpm - once the bypass valve closes anyways- could be another plus for saleen/roush-not sure if k-b has one... at very light throttle its basically not doing anything to keep mpg up. possible plus for a centrifugal though, is keeping the 'charge motion plates' for part throttle efficiency (probably helps emissions a lot too) would be an option- I havent seen any positive displacement kits that allow CMCP to stay...I'm sure ford put them there for at least one reason- but not for peak hp...
11-13-2006, 01:51 AM
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RE: Pros and Cons of a S/C
My car is a stick. The kit I'm looking at is from Haynes motorsports. They said I could get an upgrade wich included the following:
And by the way MSgt46270 that is such a sweet looking setup. It really looks factory. I have to admit that is one of the reasons I have been thinking of the saleen S/C.(loved the video's. Sure made that dodge truck look silly)
s/c pulley (6 psi) 39lb. injectors, 98mm mass air / air cleaner top,
Rubber air intake tube and PCM Reflash*
Rubber air intake tube and PCM Reflash*
11-13-2006, 02:32 AM
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RE: Pros and Cons of a S/C
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My car is a stick. The kit I'm looking at is from Haynes motorsports. They said I could get an upgrade wich included the following:
And by the way MSgt46270 that is such a sweet looking setup. It really looks factory. I have to admit that is one of the reasons I have been thinking of the saleen S/C.(loved the video's. Sure made that dodge truck look silly)
My car is a stick. The kit I'm looking at is from Haynes motorsports. They said I could get an upgrade wich included the following:
s/c pulley (6 psi) 39lb. injectors, 98mm mass air / air cleaner top,
Rubber air intake tube and PCM Reflash*
Rubber air intake tube and PCM Reflash*
Thanks about my car, can't wait to get it back from my tuner. He installed a torque converter (TCI 3200 stall). I talked to him today and he was out test driving it and making sure everything was right before he gave it back to me. He said he wanted to take my car to the track on Thursday, but then he didn't want to take a chance in doing something to it. If he took it to the track I wouldn't have cared, I trust him with my car. When I get it back I'll have to take some video's.
11-13-2006, 02:40 AM
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For anyone interested here is the link to Kenne Bell: http://www.kennebell.net/index.htm
I still don't think they look as nice as the saleen setup but it sure does look like a quality piece. On the price list I see where you get very complete kits right down to the tune. Prices actually don't seem too bad either. I might have to give them a call and see what they say. I'm very close to getting the saleen but don't want to rush into anything without doing my homework. Even the non-intercooled kit might do it for me. At 5 boost it should not over tax the motor and still give me a good kick in the pants. Bad part of that kit is I don't know if it could be upgraded.
I'll post when I get more info from KB. Thanks for everyone’s input. It's nice to have a resource like this board.
Mark
I still don't think they look as nice as the saleen setup but it sure does look like a quality piece. On the price list I see where you get very complete kits right down to the tune. Prices actually don't seem too bad either. I might have to give them a call and see what they say. I'm very close to getting the saleen but don't want to rush into anything without doing my homework. Even the non-intercooled kit might do it for me. At 5 boost it should not over tax the motor and still give me a good kick in the pants. Bad part of that kit is I don't know if it could be upgraded.
I'll post when I get more info from KB. Thanks for everyone’s input. It's nice to have a resource like this board.
Mark
11-13-2006, 02:43 AM
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RE: Pros and Cons of a S/C
I would still go with the KB. One reason is if your going to race and you want to change out the pulley it's right there (easy) and then re-flash the PCM. I like the KB better than the Saleen, but you really need to ride in a car with each setup and I have. Here's a picture of my tuners KB. BTW, last time I talked to him about his car he was putting down 700hp to the wheels.
