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What will it take to beat an SS Camaro?

Old 11-13-2006, 11:18 PM
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it should be pretty even...02 camaros have i think 310hp 340 torque
to the wheels

they are high 12 low 13, average for the s197 is high 13s unless your a freak like doodad then you can pull mid 13s[8D]
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:35 AM
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Yea, Stock for stock the camaro is a faster car. The LS1 is rated at like 310 HP but actuall puts around 305 Horses to the Ground.

If you want to run with stock z28's, a Tune and 4.10's will have you eating them. Just hope he isn't H/C/I [8D]

Just put a blower on your car and give those 3.73's there full use.

Most LS1 F-Body Drivers will be running mid 13's which is what a good driver in a stock S197 GT will run.

Both of our cars are extremely moddable but I would give the edge to the maro beucase of the Forged internals.
LSx engines do not come with forged internals.

Stock vs stock the 3V and an LS1 f-body is a pretty even race, maybe a very slight edge to the Camaro, but not so much that good driving could not overcome it. A well drivin LS1 should be a very low 13 second car stock, from what I have seen the 3v will be a mid-low 13 car. A set of drag radials,a CAI and tune will put you ahead of one stock. Once we start modding everything goes out the window. For the record LS1's are very moddable and there are probably more parts for them than the 3v's right now. Mine has most bolt ons and a cam and has put down 393 rwhp, it runs high 11's.
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:59 AM
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Yea, Stock for stock the camaro is a faster car. The LS1 is rated at like 310 HP but actuall puts around 305 Horses to the Ground.

If you want to run with stock z28's, a Tune and 4.10's will have you eating them. Just hope he isn't H/C/I [8D]

Just put a blower on your car and give those 3.73's there full use.

Most LS1 F-Body Drivers will be running mid 13's which is what a good driver in a stock S197 GT will run.

Both of our cars are extremely moddable but I would give the edge to the maro beucase of the Forged internals.
LSx engines do not come with forged internals.

Stock vs stock the 3V and an LS1 f-body is a pretty even race, maybe a very slight edge to the Camaro, but not so much that good driving could not overcome it. A well drivin LS1 should be a very low 13 second car stock, from what I have seen the 3v will be a mid-low 13 car. A set of drag radials,a CAI and tune will put you ahead of one stock. Once we start modding everything goes out the window. For the record LS1's are very moddable and there are probably more parts for them than the 3v's right now. Mine has most bolt ons and a cam and has put down 393 rwhp, it runs high 11's.
Really? I have heard that a few times when I hear people talking about there LS1's making 600 RWHP on stock internals. Iunno, I guess they were just BSing, thanks for the correction!
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:25 AM
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average for the s197 is high 13s unless your a freak like doodad then you can pull mid 13s
i pulled a 13.52 stock...But seriously, stock for stock they are pretty even actually with good driving. but the ls1 has the advantage. with a tune/CAI it should make it a drivers race for sure, get 4.10's and UDP'ys and you might take him by 2 cars from a dead stop to 90mph(good speed to stop when on the street) with a good start.

i would just supercharge yours. most of them are good for mid-low 12's on some good tires.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:04 AM
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it should be pretty even...02 camaros have i think 310hp 340 torque 3439 pounds...and ur car has 305hp 320 torque 3488 pounds...i would say a few bolt ons u should be able to beat him.
That is incorrect.

The 02 SS/Z28 are underrated at 320HP. They actually make close to 360 from the factory.

Otherwise the LS1 has to have "miraculously" lost 40HP by being put into those cars.


Watch out, they're wicked fast and every 5 dollars you spend to get power is equal to them spending a dollar.



LS1 FBody + Cam = 11sec car, for the most part.
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Old 11-14-2006, 07:51 AM
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Owned a 01 SS and if you really want to beat one stock to stock you'll need to buy a SS yourself. My 06 GT wouldn't stand a chance in hell if I was running against my stock SS.
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Old 11-14-2006, 07:53 AM
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My question is, what would it take to beat an SS camaro?
Impossible.
If I bought LT Headers/CAI/Tune/ and a short throw shifter would that make my car faster or atleast give me a chance?

There will neither be, nor will there ever be a chance to beat an LS1. The more power we have, the farther away we will be from their stock numbers. LOL
A good CAI and tune + some good driving would get you there. I beat one with just a CAI and tune and I spanked another with the addition of 4.10's.
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:53 PM
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If nothing else, remember that Camaros are not exactly rolling off the assembly line anymore. Mustang won the muscle car wars, and GM's sales prove that. Sure, the SS is awesome and can beat a lot of stangs, but pit one against a stock 07 GT500 and see what happens. People prefer mustangs, which is why they are still making them, and lots of them.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:24 PM
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Mach 1 are awesome. Mach 1's are one of the best looking stangs ever! (off topic, I know)
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