stangster06

Does anyone have this? - Ithink wingman75 does - any opinions?

They advertise 20+ hp gains without a tune.

If this is true, would a tune make it even better?

Apoptosis

I hear it is a great CAI... 20-25 RWHP is average gains, and no tune needed.

Quick S has it, and his engine ran a little rich, but a dyno tune uncovered an extra 10 Ponies from the CAI.

stangster06

So it is true? I would settle for that. Kind of worried about the running rich. Would a tune from a third party (e.g. Brenspeed help with this?) That would be 35hp with the intake and tune!

Any input?

CrazyAl

I don't belive 35 HP froma tune and a CAI....ANY CAI, unless the tune is running some extremely agressive timing, and that's not wise unless you are running race gas.

The Granatelli intake is good, but only for a specific purpose: if you want an intake but you are very budget concious and you DON'T want a tuner for some reason. If you are getting an intake and a tuner, then save some money and get either a C&L or a JLT, which are better intakes anyway.

Apoptosis

Running Rich isn't bad for an engine, it just steals HP that your engine could potentially make. Running Lean is where it gets hairy. Quick S had a Dyno tune and that was about a ~100 bucks.

I would talk to Quick S, but he seems to be in love with his GMS CAI.

Apoptosis

I'll argue that with ya, 99% of CAI's are exactly the same, just different shapes and colors. You don't believe a CAI+ a Dyno tune is worth 35 HP?

Quick S

First got the GMS CAI, there was a real noticable difference in performance,next Igot the a SCT tuner with BrenSpeed Tunes, which made it feel like a whole different car [sm=drooldude.gif].Then I got the car Dyno'ed, and was running about 15% lean, which isn't bad, but not good either. The shop I had the car dyno'ed at was able to use my SCT tuner to correct the problem by increasing fuel delivery to get me right between 12.5 amd 13. %, inwhichgetting it to its proper A/F ratio, when we re-dyno'ed the car there was a 10WHP increase. Honestly though, because these cars are so touchy to air flow changes, I would suggest a Dyno A/F ratio check, NO matter what CAI kit and tuner you go with

CrazyAl

I agree that the various CAIs are similar. But there are differences. For example, 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords magazine did this test:

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...ons/index.html

...note the HP gains from the various intakes with and without tunes. A typical score for the better intakes with a tune is about +25 HP. The best was the JLT intake, at 27.9 HP.The variance between the intakes has them making anywhere from 10-28 HP or so, which is a pretty big variance for parts that are supposedly "identical".

Is 35 HP possible? Perhaps. But in my opinion it is wishful thinking. I have never seen a CAI swap + tune give anything above 27 HP on a dyno run.

btorlv

I have it and i love it. All i can tell you is my tires break loose when i punch it in first. The car was a little sluggish and now it runs like a v8 5speed should.I picked up 2mpg and the car is a lot more fun to drive. You get a lot of bang fot the buck with no tune needed.

Riven02

My problem with it is the tune is the best part of the CAI-Tune combo.

With the GMS CAI your mustang will still have throttle lag, hanging revs, slugish shifts (in an auto), etc. Plus a good tune will always net you more power.

Also, most people are not going to stop at the CAI. So most will be buying the tuner anyway.