LCA angle & LCA relocation brackets & you
05-15-2007, 04:49 PM
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i'll tell you right now after doing one autocross that i can almost swear on something precious that it's more fun than you've ever had in your car!!! i thought it would be just like driving in a parking lot at the grocery store. . . and then i saw all the modded Z06 vettes and the AC Cobras and Daytona racecars and Formula Ford and Z28s etc. all on racing tires and i realized this was no parking lot!!!! It's so fun to really pushing the car around all those turns, tires squealing and nearly spinning out, near the redline the entire 63 seconds you're out there. . . haven't tried HPDE yet cause i'm still afraid of myself at 120 on a track and the $40k i'd lose if i hit the wall. . .
oh, yeah, so what this has to do with LCAs is that I installed the LCAs to help me hook up in the turns and further rid the car of body roll!
oh, yeah, so what this has to do with LCAs is that I installed the LCAs to help me hook up in the turns and further rid the car of body roll!
05-15-2007, 05:04 PM
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RE: LCA angle & LCA relocation brackets & you
Suck it up and go to an HPDE. The only thing that can put you in the wall is YOU. Unless you or your instructor are maniacal you will be fine. technically speaking, since autocross is timed you are at as much risk. HPDE isn't timed, so unless your insurance specificly excludes "racing surface" you are safe.You have to pick one or the other soon because an autocross setup is different than a road course setup. Believe me, once you nail an apex at 100+ and get that tingling in your nuts as your pulling G's - autocross becomes boring 
05-15-2007, 05:21 PM
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RE: LCA angle & LCA relocation brackets & you
see if you can have someone go with you and take some video!!
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i'll tell you right now after doing one autocross that i can almost swear on something precious that it's more fun than you've ever had in your car!!! i thought it would be just like driving in a parking lot at the grocery store. . . and then i saw all the modded Z06 vettes and the AC Cobras and Daytona racecars and Formula Ford and Z28s etc. all on racing tires and i realized this was no parking lot!!!! It's so fun to really pushing the car around all those turns, tires squealing and nearly spinning out, near the redline the entire 63 seconds you're out there. . . haven't tried HPDE yet cause i'm still afraid of myself at 120 on a track and the $40k i'd lose if i hit the wall. . .
oh, yeah, so what this has to do with LCAs is that I installed the LCAs to help me hook up in the turns and further rid the car of body roll!
i'll tell you right now after doing one autocross that i can almost swear on something precious that it's more fun than you've ever had in your car!!! i thought it would be just like driving in a parking lot at the grocery store. . . and then i saw all the modded Z06 vettes and the AC Cobras and Daytona racecars and Formula Ford and Z28s etc. all on racing tires and i realized this was no parking lot!!!! It's so fun to really pushing the car around all those turns, tires squealing and nearly spinning out, near the redline the entire 63 seconds you're out there. . . haven't tried HPDE yet cause i'm still afraid of myself at 120 on a track and the $40k i'd lose if i hit the wall. . .
oh, yeah, so what this has to do with LCAs is that I installed the LCAs to help me hook up in the turns and further rid the car of body roll!
05-15-2007, 05:25 PM
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i don't disagree! but i can hit cone after cone and my insurance won't have anything to cover cause nothing will be broken or if it is i'll fix it myself. i've checked my policy and it's sketchy and i'm unable to tell if it's the "pre" loophole language or the "post" loophole language and i'm NOT going to come under their radar by calling and asking "do you cover HPDEs". . . anyways.. . either way the adjustable LCAs will benefit me!
believe me rodeo i intend to be out there in either my current car or a dedicated track car in the future. :-) thanks for the encouragement
believe me rodeo i intend to be out there in either my current car or a dedicated track car in the future. :-) thanks for the encouragement
05-15-2007, 06:16 PM
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I hate talking on the internet!!!!!!! Not off center from side to side.
**** it, i'm not going to explain it anymore. What part of crooked do people not understand?
I hate talking on the internet!!!!!!! Not off center from side to side.
**** it, i'm not going to explain it anymore. What part of crooked do people not understand?
05-15-2007, 08:58 PM
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RE: LCA angle & LCA relocation brackets & you
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Actually axleshift results when you lower the car with new springs. Has nothing to do with the relo brackets and whatnot.
The car kicking out to one side if it is offcenter int he rear makes sense -if the rear axleis off to one side just a bit more than the other andyou add new LCAs and relo brackets so the car BITES better.....with the rear notperfectly centered,when she grabs, the car would naturally angle or kick in the direction the axle is over towards.......
Actually axleshift results when you lower the car with new springs. Has nothing to do with the relo brackets and whatnot.
The car kicking out to one side if it is offcenter int he rear makes sense -if the rear axleis off to one side just a bit more than the other andyou add new LCAs and relo brackets so the car BITES better.....with the rear notperfectly centered,when she grabs, the car would naturally angle or kick in the direction the axle is over towards.......
Now that would make sense. I cannot imagine that the Anti Squat Brackets would be the cause. These suspension parts from what I have seen seem to be pretty well engineered. And for the brackets to have so much variance that they caused that large of an issue seem unlikely. And if they were that far out of whack I am certain you would have heard this issue on anyones car who used the CHE Brackets. I have a set sitting in the garage waiting to go on the car and they are seriously built and well made from what i can tell.
Moosestang have you talked to CHE about your issue and if so what did they say?
Richard
05-15-2007, 10:34 PM
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RE: LCA angle & LCA relocation brackets & you
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Now that would make sense. I cannot imagine that the Anti Squat Brackets would be the cause. These suspension parts from what I have seen seem to be pretty well engineered. And for the brackets to have so much variance that they caused that large of an issue seem unlikely. And if they were that far out of whack I am certain you would have heard this issue on anyones car who used the CHE Brackets. I have a set sitting in the garage waiting to go on the car and they are seriously built and well made from what i can tell.
Moosestang have you talked to CHE about your issue and if so what did they say?
Richard
Now that would make sense. I cannot imagine that the Anti Squat Brackets would be the cause. These suspension parts from what I have seen seem to be pretty well engineered. And for the brackets to have so much variance that they caused that large of an issue seem unlikely. And if they were that far out of whack I am certain you would have heard this issue on anyones car who used the CHE Brackets. I have a set sitting in the garage waiting to go on the car and they are seriously built and well made from what i can tell.
Moosestang have you talked to CHE about your issue and if so what did they say?
Richard
I suppose my axle could be bent.
05-16-2007, 08:30 PM
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RE: LCA angle & LCA relocation brackets & you
So my speed shop called meback this afternoon about the rear end kicking out. He tells me this is not an uncommon issue on all high power cars. Your LCA/UCA/PANHARD can be set perfectly and still have this occur. Usually caused by the rears breaking loose both laterally and horizontally.
Reasons:
1) the rear not applying power totally equally to both tires
2) road surface
3) direction of car (not perfectly straight)
4) any other lateral forces the car is under
I trust this guy implicitly and he knows his stuff. A long time SCCA racer and engineer @ Steeda for 8 years....
Guess I just need some DR's for the rear!!
Reasons:
1) the rear not applying power totally equally to both tires
2) road surface
3) direction of car (not perfectly straight)
4) any other lateral forces the car is under
I trust this guy implicitly and he knows his stuff. A long time SCCA racer and engineer @ Steeda for 8 years....
Guess I just need some DR's for the rear!!
05-16-2007, 11:53 PM
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moosestang: you were dead on!!! my damn axle's a half inch forward on the passenger's side!!!!! i'll fix that tomorrow. thank you thank you thank you!
stkjock: thanks a bunch for the update. that's encouraging to a degree. i'm less worried that something's dangerously wrong. i'll still get the adj panhard and try to get everything lined up. i may just break down and get an alignment front and back.
stkjock: thanks a bunch for the update. that's encouraging to a degree. i'm less worried that something's dangerously wrong. i'll still get the adj panhard and try to get everything lined up. i may just break down and get an alignment front and back.
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