3 degrees Fahrenheit
01-03-2008, 07:57 AM
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3 degrees Fahrenheit
OK, so it's 3 degrees out, and I'm having some problems. For one, my e-brake is freezing up in the morning like many others. Only after I drive in slushy/watery mix, and then park as the temp drops, though, so I don't know if anything can be done. My car was built AFTER 10/2005 so why do I have this problem???
Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...
Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.
Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.
And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...
Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.
Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.
And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
01-03-2008, 08:34 AM
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RE: 3 degrees Fahrenheit
ORIGINAL: imyy4u
OK, so it's 3 degrees out, and I'm having some problems. For one, my e-brake is freezing up in the morning like many others. Only after I drive in slushy/watery mix, and then park as the temp drops, though, so I don't know if anything can be done. My car was built AFTER 10/2005 so why do I have this problem???
Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...
Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.
Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.
And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
OK, so it's 3 degrees out, and I'm having some problems. For one, my e-brake is freezing up in the morning like many others. Only after I drive in slushy/watery mix, and then park as the temp drops, though, so I don't know if anything can be done. My car was built AFTER 10/2005 so why do I have this problem???
Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...
Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.
Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.
And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
The warming up may be a problem with the thermostat,have it checked out.
The washer nozzle is freezing most likely because it has some water in it, spray it out and all new winter washer fluid.
Traction--get some all season or winter tires
E-brake needs to be looked at.
When it's cold most motor require a little more crankingto start them, the oil is cold so they don't crank over as fast also the air fuel mixture is richer so it takes a little longer.
01-03-2008, 08:37 AM
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RE: 3 degrees Fahrenheit
Just wait a few more years. Chicago is going to be the new Miami. Philadelphia is the current Miami. Gotta love global warming!!
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01-03-2008, 09:06 AM
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RE: 3 degrees Fahrenheit
ORIGINAL: imyy4u
OK, so it's 3 degrees out, and I'm having some problems. For one, my e-brake is freezing up in the morning like many others. Only after I drive in slushy/watery mix, and then park as the temp drops, though, so I don't know if anything can be done. My car was built AFTER 10/2005 so why do I have this problem???
Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...
Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.
Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.
And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
OK, so it's 3 degrees out, and I'm having some problems. For one, my e-brake is freezing up in the morning like many others. Only after I drive in slushy/watery mix, and then park as the temp drops, though, so I don't know if anything can be done. My car was built AFTER 10/2005 so why do I have this problem???
Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...
Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.
Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.
And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
30 minutes is quite a long time for the car to warm up, I have to agree that it might be an issue with your thermostat. It would be pretty easy to get it out and take a look at it yourself so it might be something worthwhile to look into.
Personally I try to get most off the ice off my back window with an ice scraper, will only help the defroster but also I don't know how thick the ice is you are trying to remove.
As for the cranking time, oil temp will be an issue (shouldn't be a big one with synthetic oil) and also your battery temp/life could have an affect.
For the traction issue try putting a stuffed animal under the peddle
01-03-2008, 09:24 AM
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RE: 3 degrees Fahrenheit
ORIGINAL: smythge
I had an auto V6 last winter and it went through anything never got stuck or had traction issues (with 17" GT take off wheels) Drove my manual GT once and ithas been in the garage since October, I live in Wisconsin.
The warming up may be a problem with the thermostat,have it checked out.
The washer nozzle is freezing most likely because it has some water in it, spray it out and all new winter washer fluid.
Traction--get some all season or winter tires
E-brake needs to be looked at.
When it's cold most motor require a little more crankingto start them, the oil is cold so they don't crank over as fast also the air fuel mixture is richer so it takes a little longer.
I had an auto V6 last winter and it went through anything never got stuck or had traction issues (with 17" GT take off wheels) Drove my manual GT once and ithas been in the garage since October, I live in Wisconsin.
The warming up may be a problem with the thermostat,have it checked out.
The washer nozzle is freezing most likely because it has some water in it, spray it out and all new winter washer fluid.
Traction--get some all season or winter tires
E-brake needs to be looked at.
When it's cold most motor require a little more crankingto start them, the oil is cold so they don't crank over as fast also the air fuel mixture is richer so it takes a little longer.
As for the washer nozzle, I don't have water in it, it is 100% antifreeze. NEVER had water in it, ALWAYS antifreeze year round. I have sprayed it out numerous times and always it freezes until the engine warms.
As for the e-brake - what am I supposed to tell them? That is only supposed to apply to cars made before 10/2005. How could I still have this problem? And if I do, all they would do is replace it with the same parts so the problem would reoccur...don't see how this helps.
As for the cranking, you guys are probably right. Nothing I can do about this...thanks anyways though :-)
Oh and as for the rear defroster, I am talking about only 1-3mm of ice on the back windshield taking 45min to melt. And that's if I turn on the rear defroster immediately after starting the car. I would expect (as in my previous cars) for it to be melted in 15 min max.
edit: as for traction, I have Michelin x-Ice snow tires for the rear...they help a LOT. I am just bitching about traction, but I know that I won't have much in winter...no surprise here, and I don't think anything is wrong with my car in this instance.
01-03-2008, 09:33 AM
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RE: 3 degrees Fahrenheit
When I was 16, my dad told me to never use the e-brake in temps colder than 30 F.
Buy a bottle of spray deicer
...or put it in a garage.
Don't buy a 300hp car if traction issues is a mjor concern (not trying to sound like an ***.. but it's true).
Buy a bottle of spray deicer
...or put it in a garage.
Don't buy a 300hp car if traction issues is a mjor concern (not trying to sound like an ***.. but it's true).
ORIGINAL: imyy4u
OK, so it's 3 degrees out, and I'm having some problems. For one, my e-brake is freezing up in the morning like many others. Only after I drive in slushy/watery mix, and then park as the temp drops, though, so I don't know if anything can be done. My car was built AFTER 10/2005 so why do I have this problem???
Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...
Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.
Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.
And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
OK, so it's 3 degrees out, and I'm having some problems. For one, my e-brake is freezing up in the morning like many others. Only after I drive in slushy/watery mix, and then park as the temp drops, though, so I don't know if anything can be done. My car was built AFTER 10/2005 so why do I have this problem???
Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...
Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.
Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.
And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
01-03-2008, 09:40 AM
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RE: 3 degrees Fahrenheit
sounds like annoying problems, but the flip side is....DAMN....3 degrees is effing cold. I'll stop whining about the 10-15 degrees I'm dealing with here in NJ
on that note, I couldnt even imagine dealing with my GT driving in inclement weather. Luckily I got my 91 GMC for daily driving. it's 2 wheel drive, but still vastly superior to the stang in the snow I'm sure.
I'm lucky in that I have a beater in awesome shape for it's age, but maybe its worth it for you to get a beater car for the really bad months. although I'm assuming you might not have a garage to store the stang anyway?
on that note, I couldnt even imagine dealing with my GT driving in inclement weather. Luckily I got my 91 GMC for daily driving. it's 2 wheel drive, but still vastly superior to the stang in the snow I'm sure.
I'm lucky in that I have a beater in awesome shape for it's age, but maybe its worth it for you to get a beater car for the really bad months. although I'm assuming you might not have a garage to store the stang anyway?