Jacking up one side to rotate the tires...
01-17-2008, 10:03 AM
#11
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RE: Jacking up one side to rotate the tires...
ORIGINAL: Hessian
What's the best way to do this at home using the correct X rotation? Jack stands?
Or, do most people just take it toa shop/lift?
What's the best way to do this at home using the correct X rotation? Jack stands?
Or, do most people just take it toa shop/lift?
I use 2 jacks. I get the one out of my Jeep but it doesn't save any time. I use the spare on the left rear to begin with. Then move the LR to the LF. LF to the RR. RR to the RF. RF to the LR and put the spare back in the trunk.
01-17-2008, 08:55 PM
#12
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RE: Jacking up one side to rotate the tires...
ORIGINAL: 157db
That applied to first generation Steel Belted Radials.
Tire technology has come a long way and they can
now be rotated side to side as well without fear of
belt seperation.
ORIGINAL: jmk3
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that x pattern rotation should only be done with bias tires. I thought radials should only be switched from front to back.
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that x pattern rotation should only be done with bias tires. I thought radials should only be switched from front to back.
Tire technology has come a long way and they can
now be rotated side to side as well without fear of
belt seperation.
HUH????
What is different in todays tires?
01-18-2008, 05:32 PM
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RE: Jacking up one side to rotate the tires...
ORIGINAL: AshTang
HUH????
What is different in todays tires?
ORIGINAL: 157db
That applied to first generation Steel Belted Radials.
Tire technology has come a long way and they can
now be rotated side to side as well without fear of
belt seperation.
ORIGINAL: jmk3
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that x pattern rotation should only be done with bias tires. I thought radials should only be switched from front to back.
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that x pattern rotation should only be done with bias tires. I thought radials should only be switched from front to back.
Tire technology has come a long way and they can
now be rotated side to side as well without fear of
belt seperation.
HUH????
What is different in todays tires?
How not to use jack stands:
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01-20-2008, 05:44 PM
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RE: Jacking up one side to rotate the tires...
I understand this. I actually work for a major tire manufacturing plant. I have worked as a Lead Production Supervisor in charge of stock cutting for the last 9 years. I understand what is in a tire. I just was wondering if anyone REALLY knew what they were speaking of or just make very general statements. In thenearly 13 years Ihave been in the plant, I have seen many changes. These changes would include everything from the methods or processes used down to the actual compundsand overall design of a tire.
I did not know however that these changes required a change in the way we were rotating tires. I understood the X was always better.
Shawn
I did not know however that these changes required a change in the way we were rotating tires. I understood the X was always better.
Shawn
01-20-2008, 05:53 PM
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RE: Jacking up one side to rotate the tires...
Okay I see. Few people have much appreciation for the construction and compound technology represented by the modern tire.
Back in mid 70s (when I first started buying tires) when radials were less common than bias plies) we were taught that once a radial tire had been "run in" it had to be rotated on the same side from then on, or the belts could shift. It might not have even been true, but it was "common wisdom" and the tire shops would tell us this. That belief persisted into the 90s, although around then I noticed the tire manufacturers began recommending the X pattern rotation.
Some people still believe it, and that's what I thought your comment meant.
Back in mid 70s (when I first started buying tires) when radials were less common than bias plies) we were taught that once a radial tire had been "run in" it had to be rotated on the same side from then on, or the belts could shift. It might not have even been true, but it was "common wisdom" and the tire shops would tell us this. That belief persisted into the 90s, although around then I noticed the tire manufacturers began recommending the X pattern rotation.
Some people still believe it, and that's what I thought your comment meant.
01-20-2008, 05:56 PM
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RE: Jacking up one side to rotate the tires...
ORIGINAL: YellowFlame
Okay I see. Few people have much appreciation for the construction and compound technology represented by the modern tire.
Back in mid 70s (when I first started buying tires) when radials were less common than bias plies) we were taught that once a radial tire had been "run in" it had to be rotated on the same side from then on, or the belts could shift. It might not have even been true, but it was "common wisdom" and the tire shops would tell us this. That belief persisted into the 90s, although around then I noticed the tire manufacturers began recommending the X pattern rotation.
Some people still believe it, and that's what I thought your comment meant.
Okay I see. Few people have much appreciation for the construction and compound technology represented by the modern tire.
Back in mid 70s (when I first started buying tires) when radials were less common than bias plies) we were taught that once a radial tire had been "run in" it had to be rotated on the same side from then on, or the belts could shift. It might not have even been true, but it was "common wisdom" and the tire shops would tell us this. That belief persisted into the 90s, although around then I noticed the tire manufacturers began recommending the X pattern rotation.
Some people still believe it, and that's what I thought your comment meant.
Back in the 70's the belts would break loose. Remember the Firestone 721 recall?
01-20-2008, 07:23 PM
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RE: Jacking up one side to rotate the tires...
I took my car to the dealership for an oil change and decided to have them rotate the tires while I was waiting. When they were done, I asked them if the did the "X" pattern and they told me no. They just moved front to rear and vice versa.
The manual does say "x" pattern is preferred. To be honest, I don't think it makes that much of a difference.
~Fletch~
The manual does say "x" pattern is preferred. To be honest, I don't think it makes that much of a difference.
~Fletch~