Newer Mach 1's
03-26-2008, 09:37 AM
#21
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RE: Newer Mach 1's
All this arguement goes to show that the cars are very close. Stock vs Stock, the s197 is at a disadvantage, but cars don't race themselves. These cars are close enough, stock vs stock, that the driver can be a big factor. With a CAI + tune, I say that the s197 has the slight advantage, but it is so close that it really doesn't matter. Go to your track, and see the trap speeds, that will give you the best indication of how much hpthese carsmake.The dyno can show you have a million horsepower, but if you are only trapping 106 mph, thenwhocares what the dyno says.
03-26-2008, 10:05 AM
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RE: Newer Mach 1's
On a quarter mile stretch @ 100-150 mph, when does aerodynamics come into play? On a quarter mile at those speeds, does it really matter much or is the wind resistance on the car not really a factor? I know this is a little off the hp/weight discussion, but just interested to know this. I have heard that the s197 wasn't designed wellforbeing aerodynamic.
03-26-2008, 10:25 AM
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RE: Newer Mach 1's
From wikepedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_Mach_1)
"Chassis dynomometers typically hold stock 2003 and 2004 cars at 275-285 rwhp [1] and 295-305 rwtrq (SAE). With a drivetrain loss of 15% this equates to 323–335 hp and 345–360 lbf·ft (465–490 N·m) of torque....
With such improvements in power and a relatively light curb weight of 3,380 lb (1,533 kg), the 2003 Mustang Mach 1 posted magazine test numbers that were impressive given its $29,305 price tag. Magazine tests by Motor Trend found numbers from 13.88 @ 101.9 mph for the automatic equipped 2003 Mach 1 with a 5.6 s 0-60, up to the 5 speed's blistering 13.2 @ 106.7 mph with a 4.7 s 0-60 mph time"
To me the differences are pretty significant. I realize that modding the S197 will narrow the gap, but that's not the point.
"Chassis dynomometers typically hold stock 2003 and 2004 cars at 275-285 rwhp [1] and 295-305 rwtrq (SAE). With a drivetrain loss of 15% this equates to 323–335 hp and 345–360 lbf·ft (465–490 N·m) of torque....
With such improvements in power and a relatively light curb weight of 3,380 lb (1,533 kg), the 2003 Mustang Mach 1 posted magazine test numbers that were impressive given its $29,305 price tag. Magazine tests by Motor Trend found numbers from 13.88 @ 101.9 mph for the automatic equipped 2003 Mach 1 with a 5.6 s 0-60, up to the 5 speed's blistering 13.2 @ 106.7 mph with a 4.7 s 0-60 mph time"
To me the differences are pretty significant. I realize that modding the S197 will narrow the gap, but that's not the point.
03-26-2008, 10:58 AM
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RE: Newer Mach 1's
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From wikepedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_Mach_1)
"Chassis dynomometers typically hold stock 2003 and 2004 cars at 275-285 rwhp [1] and 295-305 rwtrq (SAE). With a drivetrain loss of 15% this equates to 323–335 hp and 345–360 lbf·ft (465–490 N·m) of torque....
With such improvements in power and a relatively light curb weight of 3,380 lb (1,533 kg), the 2003 Mustang Mach 1 posted magazine test numbers that were impressive given its $29,305 price tag. Magazine tests by Motor Trend found numbers from 13.88 @ 101.9 mph for the automatic equipped 2003 Mach 1 with a 5.6 s 0-60, up to the 5 speed's blistering 13.2 @ 106.7 mph with a 4.7 s 0-60 mph time"
To me the differences are pretty significant. I realize that modding the S197 will narrow the gap, but that's not the point.
From wikepedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_Mach_1)
"Chassis dynomometers typically hold stock 2003 and 2004 cars at 275-285 rwhp [1] and 295-305 rwtrq (SAE). With a drivetrain loss of 15% this equates to 323–335 hp and 345–360 lbf·ft (465–490 N·m) of torque....
With such improvements in power and a relatively light curb weight of 3,380 lb (1,533 kg), the 2003 Mustang Mach 1 posted magazine test numbers that were impressive given its $29,305 price tag. Magazine tests by Motor Trend found numbers from 13.88 @ 101.9 mph for the automatic equipped 2003 Mach 1 with a 5.6 s 0-60, up to the 5 speed's blistering 13.2 @ 106.7 mph with a 4.7 s 0-60 mph time"
To me the differences are pretty significant. I realize that modding the S197 will narrow the gap, but that's not the point.
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