Went to the track!! Now I'm going Automatic!!
05-13-2008, 07:28 AM
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Forensicsteve; Exactly! We're putting in a 3 speed racing transmission with a Neal Chance converter and transbrake. The car will be going out to have a compound boost system with twin 60mm turbo's feeding the Eaton put on after the World Ford Challenge. Goes up to Eastexas race cars to have the cage put in afterwards.
MYGT500: You are correct the Automatic is much more consistant. It also keeps the car in boost during the shiftnormally a whole second can be taken off the time with an Automatic over a manual!
MYGT500: You are correct the Automatic is much more consistant. It also keeps the car in boost during the shiftnormally a whole second can be taken off the time with an Automatic over a manual!
05-13-2008, 07:40 AM
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Dont go with a girl-o-matic.. makes driving on the street dead boring.
Dont go with a girl-o-matic.. makes driving on the street dead boring.
Hmmm, does this look like a girl-o-matic to you?
http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/b...t=217d4364.flv
He's running the same "girl-o-matic" I am. I should probably let John Urist (three time NMRA champion and owner of hellion turbo's), Danny Bagginga, Don Burton, Richard Lelsz and 1/2 acre now that their 7 second cars are running on "girl-o-matics also.
As far as the street goes.....I'll give you2 lengths and the move and still smoke you like your in reverse!
05-13-2008, 07:43 AM
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Even with nearly stock cars the automatics consistently put down better times than manuals...its just a fact of life...
Even with nearly stock cars the automatics consistently put down better times than manuals...its just a fact of life...
05-13-2008, 08:47 AM
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PLstang.......
No worries......that car of yours looks nothing girly-like and performance-wise? Pfft!!!
You've created a BEAST!!!! I think you could easily give anyone a damn good run for their money!!
So you'll have the new automatic installed in time for this weekend?? This should be very interesting for you track times!!! [&:]
Please keep us posted on the progress of that racecar of yours........man, I can't imagine how much fun it is to drive it!!
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No worries......that car of yours looks nothing girly-like and performance-wise? Pfft!!!
You've created a BEAST!!!! I think you could easily give anyone a damn good run for their money!!
So you'll have the new automatic installed in time for this weekend?? This should be very interesting for you track times!!! [&:]
Please keep us posted on the progress of that racecar of yours........man, I can't imagine how much fun it is to drive it!!
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05-13-2008, 09:37 AM
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So you are doing compound boost?
After reading the article in this months MM&FF I have decided it is the answer to the question no one has asked. Theirs was down 150 something rwhp from running Turbo's alone.
I think just running the turbo set up would be better, but to each his own.
If you are going to do it, why not try it running a compund twin turbo into a 3.4L whipple. At least the blower wont be as big of an inlet restriction.
Also I thougt it was weird the way compound boost..... well compounds. 11psi from the blower and 7psi from the turbo's made 23psi. I am an engineer, I could never put something so illogical on my car
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Good luck with the auto, for a track car you will be much happier.
After reading the article in this months MM&FF I have decided it is the answer to the question no one has asked. Theirs was down 150 something rwhp from running Turbo's alone.
I think just running the turbo set up would be better, but to each his own.
If you are going to do it, why not try it running a compund twin turbo into a 3.4L whipple. At least the blower wont be as big of an inlet restriction.
Also I thougt it was weird the way compound boost..... well compounds. 11psi from the blower and 7psi from the turbo's made 23psi. I am an engineer, I could never put something so illogical on my car
.Good luck with the auto, for a track car you will be much happier.
05-13-2008, 10:13 AM
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Wow, with intellectual arguments like "girl-o-matic" maybe I should change my mind!
Hmmm, does this look like a girl-o-matic to you?
http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/b...t=217d4364.flv
He's running the same "girl-o-matic" I am. I should probably let John Urist (three time NMRA champion and owner of hellion turbo's), Danny Bagginga, Don Burton, Richard Lelsz and 1/2 acre now that their 7 second cars are running on "girl-o-matics also.
As far as the street goes.....I'll give you2 lengths and the move and still smoke you like your in reverse!
ORIGINAL: Ruffnuts
Dont go with a girl-o-matic.. makes driving on the street dead boring.
Dont go with a girl-o-matic.. makes driving on the street dead boring.
Hmmm, does this look like a girl-o-matic to you?
http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/b...t=217d4364.flv
He's running the same "girl-o-matic" I am. I should probably let John Urist (three time NMRA champion and owner of hellion turbo's), Danny Bagginga, Don Burton, Richard Lelsz and 1/2 acre now that their 7 second cars are running on "girl-o-matics also.
As far as the street goes.....I'll give you2 lengths and the move and still smoke you like your in reverse!
Gl with your project PLstang !!
05-13-2008, 11:06 AM
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Right on Eric!!!!
I cant wait to see your numbers with the automatic!!!!!! I love my manual but damm, sometimes I wish I had gone with the automatic. I think Id be doing much better at the track too!!! lol
Keep us posted for sure!!!!!
I cant wait to see your numbers with the automatic!!!!!! I love my manual but damm, sometimes I wish I had gone with the automatic. I think Id be doing much better at the track too!!! lol
Keep us posted for sure!!!!!
05-13-2008, 12:31 PM
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Very good question!! Yes I have read the same articles. While a straight Turbo system may make more power that's not the only thing that matters at the track. I could go with a big single 94mm turbo and a 400 cube engine (that's what my race car will have) but this is supposed to be streetable. I really don't want to gut my factory wiring on the car to put in the Big Stuff and all the MSD controlers necessary to make a car like that affective on the track. It's not only about power, but useable power and when that power comes in. The compound boost system appears attractive to me for some of it's benefits on both the small end of the track and the big end. It also lesssons the chance of being "burned down" on the line by a Nitrous car.
I'll definetly let you guys know how the project progresses. I have complete confidence in the people building the settup ( I can't say who at the moment). We'll see if the theory works in practice.
Thanks!!
Very good question!! Yes I have read the same articles. While a straight Turbo system may make more power that's not the only thing that matters at the track. I could go with a big single 94mm turbo and a 400 cube engine (that's what my race car will have) but this is supposed to be streetable. I really don't want to gut my factory wiring on the car to put in the Big Stuff and all the MSD controlers necessary to make a car like that affective on the track. It's not only about power, but useable power and when that power comes in. The compound boost system appears attractive to me for some of it's benefits on both the small end of the track and the big end. It also lesssons the chance of being "burned down" on the line by a Nitrous car.
I'll definetly let you guys know how the project progresses. I have complete confidence in the people building the settup ( I can't say who at the moment). We'll see if the theory works in practice.
Thanks!!
05-13-2008, 12:45 PM
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To each his own. It is a pretty cool set up, just after seeing the numbers I was a little less impressed. It will certainly make good power and the added cubes from the 5.4 wont hurt either.
Just after reading all this stuff about the 3.4L whipple, I am pretty impressed. Maybe you should one up ChevyKiller and put the 3.9L whipple on yours.
Just after reading all this stuff about the 3.4L whipple, I am pretty impressed. Maybe you should one up ChevyKiller and put the 3.9L whipple on yours.