Which is more agressive - Stingers or Pypes mid muffler?
08-11-2008, 09:59 AM
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Which is more agressive - Stingers or Pypes mid muffler?
I just installed my mid muffler system last night and drove it first time this morning. It is much louder and deper at low rpms, especially under load, but at higher rpm's it doesn't seem too much louder than my stock GT mufflers (Manual trans). Maybe I need to drive it a bit more, but just curious if stingers are louder.
Side note: THe install was a pain because the pipe ends were squeezed in since I bought this system used. The clearance to the gas tank guards was minimal at best (known problem). It took me an hour to get 1/2" from muffler to fiberglass shield on the tanks. Tip alignement was pretty good.
Side note: THe install was a pain because the pipe ends were squeezed in since I bought this system used. The clearance to the gas tank guards was minimal at best (known problem). It took me an hour to get 1/2" from muffler to fiberglass shield on the tanks. Tip alignement was pretty good.
08-11-2008, 10:44 AM
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RE: Which is more agressive - Stingers or Pypes mid muffler?
I would describe my Stingers as being opposite.
They have a nice little rumble at idle (yes even on a 4.0) but they really open up when you get on it.
I would almost describe them as being quieter than my old GT Takeoffs at idle, but louder and throatier at every other RPM
They have a nice little rumble at idle (yes even on a 4.0) but they really open up when you get on it.
I would almost describe them as being quieter than my old GT Takeoffs at idle, but louder and throatier at every other RPM
08-11-2008, 11:46 AM
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RE: Which is more agressive - Stingers or Pypes mid muffler?
My stingers are very aggressive, and from the clips I've heard, they are deeper than the Pypes MM. It seems to me that the MM tends to get a little buzzy sounding at higher rpms.
08-12-2008, 02:16 PM
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completely opposite opinion here:
While the Borla's do tend to be a little bit louder, they drone much more (almost no drone with the MM), and the Borla's actually get raspy especially when paired with a o/r mid pipe (with the exception of a prochamber). The MM will break in, and get louder, trust me. IMO the MM is the closest thing I've heard to the classic mustang sound on an S197- if thats what you are looking for?
While the Borla's do tend to be a little bit louder, they drone much more (almost no drone with the MM), and the Borla's actually get raspy especially when paired with a o/r mid pipe (with the exception of a prochamber). The MM will break in, and get louder, trust me. IMO the MM is the closest thing I've heard to the classic mustang sound on an S197- if thats what you are looking for?
08-12-2008, 03:15 PM
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I've had three diff exhaust setups. The mid-muffler setup when compared to the exact same off-road h-pipe setup as MAC/JBA gained 6rwhp for me on a dyno.
The mids give a nice deep tone and cancel the rap-rap-rap of the rear mount mufflers. If you like that tone at mid-full throttle then go with it.
The mids give a nice deep tone and cancel the rap-rap-rap of the rear mount mufflers. If you like that tone at mid-full throttle then go with it.
08-12-2008, 04:01 PM
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There you go, getting me all worked up again. I haven't tried the (frpp)/borla stingers but may have to one day. I've got my car all worked out except for F/I and suspension then these posts get my mind working again. lol!
08-12-2008, 04:03 PM
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I just installed my mid muffler system last night and drove it first time this morning. It is much louder and deper at low rpms, especially under load, but at higher rpm's it doesn't seem too much louder than my stock GT mufflers (Manual trans). Maybe I need to drive it a bit more, but just curious if stingers are louder.
Side note: THe install was a pain because the pipe ends were squeezed in since I bought this system used. The clearance to the gas tank guards was minimal at best (known problem). It took me an hour to get 1/2" from muffler to fiberglass shield on the tanks. Tip alignement was pretty good.
Side note: THe install was a pain because the pipe ends were squeezed in since I bought this system used. The clearance to the gas tank guards was minimal at best (known problem). It took me an hour to get 1/2" from muffler to fiberglass shield on the tanks. Tip alignement was pretty good.
U need long tubes and an off-road pipe. Everything changes then.