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Dollar for Dollar, Can the 2010 Mustang compete?

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubrignitz
"leaving" it to chevy/dodge? lol. there are more than enough modified S197's to keep the chevy/dodges in check. and why not wait-see if chevy's new "heavy" is all that anyway??
we're not talking modified. we're talking stock. if you want to talk modified, lets bring up all the modiifed 98-02 ls1's that sadly keep our S197's in check.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:32 PM
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there's a stock mustang running around?? where? where???
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubrignitz
there's a stock mustang running around?? where? where???
lol

To be honest, I'm kinda worried about running into one of those v6 camaro's. Ending in a dead heat would be embarrassing.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bmr4life
lol

To be honest, I'm kinda worried about running into one of those v6 camaro's. Ending in a dead heat would be embarrassing.
You always worry about running into 14 second cars?
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:03 PM
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but I'm hoping that the Coyote V8 has been mentioned. Google it.

Apparently the 2011 GTs will be likely powered by a 5.0L, DOHC 32-valve engine producing in the neighbourhood of 400hp. This shouldn't result in much of an increase in weight, so the power:weight ratio will tip in the favor of the Mustang. I like Ford uses technology to increase power rather than Chevy's "make it bigger mentality" which results in some heavy vehicles.
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:08 PM
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I just hope they don't modify the car so much that one of those new 5L 4V's doesn't retrofit in the current chassis. I'll probably be in the market for a new motor around that time.
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dkersten
On the 1/4 mile track, the mustang tends to be competitive, but on other tracks, it handles like a 20 year old car. I don't run my car on either, so I cannot speak from experience, but the performance standards that reviewers use come from experience on the track(s), and if there is one thing those guys do know, its test driving cars on a track.
You couldn't be more wrong about the handling. You freely state you don't race, but declare the mustang handles like a 20yr old car. Really, based on what?

Writers for magazines are hardly highly skilled drivers and in the end their opinion is just the opinion of one man. From reading all of your posts, you seem to base your opinion of cars more from reading about them than actually driving them. You have to keep in mind that writers, like everyone, have inherent biases. Most magazine writers have love affairs with certain cars, and write off others without a thought. You shouldn't be surprised that most think of the Mustang as low-tech American iron. Writers also love to jump on the latest bandwagon.

Writers love to dump on the solid axle, just as you have, without really thinking about it. The automatic assumption is something more complicated has to be better. I've seen a stock '05 GT with R-compounds dust every other car in attendance at an autocross meet more than one time. Granted, he is an excellent driver, but the point is that is what the car is capable of when driven well. The field he beats includes cars 3-4 times the price, fancy suspensions, AWD, BMWs, Corvettes, you name it. A funny additional to this story is this same driver bought a S2000 and put his Mustang up for sale. When he brought the S2000 to meets, he was a mid-pack player. I asked him about this and he said the Mustang was a faster car, period, straight line or otherwise.

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Old 02-25-2009, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bmr4life
we're not talking modified. we're talking stock. if you want to talk modified, lets bring up all the modiifed 98-02 ls1's that sadly keep our S197's in check.
LT1s also can run, it just costs a bit more to mod them because the stock heads are awful.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:19 PM
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Guys..Ford knows even with out the HP increase we want they still will sell a ton..then in 2011 they will bump it to were it should be and sell even more..
Its good business sense..to keep us wanting more..
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Odd that the challenger aluminum wheels are not polished. They have plastic covers that fit over the wheel and spokes that look like chrome. Very strange and cheap!
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