dealer talked me out of service
#11
i called to make an appointment to get atf fluid flushed since i just went over 30,000 mi. they told me its a sealed transmission and they really don't need it until 100,000 mi. ... should i call different dealer or is there any truth to this.. service manual says 30,000mi...
#12
i called to make an appointment to get atf fluid flushed since i just went over 30,000 mi. they told me its a sealed transmission and they really don't need it until 100,000 mi. ... should i call different dealer or is there any truth to this.. service manual says 30,000mi...
If your vehicle has significant (the maintenance guide says "primarily") use that falls under any of those categories, you'd follow the SOC schedule. Occasionally encountering any of those conditions does not require that you do so.
Unfortunately, the guide does not mention frequent heavy acceleration as a SOC, though I think that it should perhaps be treated similar to more than just occasional trailer towing.
My '08 guide lists a 150,000 mile AT fluid replacement schedule for "normal" use. However, "normal" use may well be less severe than the use demanded of these cars by members of automotive enthusiast forums in general, and cars such as the Mustang in particular. 30,000 might still be a little sooner than necessary, but 150,000 is way too long. Without knowing anything more, I'd probably consider a 50,000 - 60,000 mile schedule to be adequate.
Hope this helps.
Norm
Last edited by Norm Peterson; 04-10-2009 at 07:16 AM.
#14
The engine oil?
Dirty from what?
Are you pouring sand in your oil filler neck?
Last time I checked the only way for
dirt to get into my engine would be thru
the air intake, a leaking vacuum port,
dipstick tube or the oil flller neck. I am
not counting the by-products of the
combustion process or babbitt material
from the bearings....
Appearance has little to do with the
diminished lubrication properties of the oil.
Oil thats changed based soley on the appearance
is probably being changed before its time.
But this 'oil going bad from dirt' is just silly.
Bad from combustion by-products, maybe.
I really want to know just exactly what is
getting in my clean oil that a filter can remove
partical size wise.
Whats the filter filtering anyhow.
Dirty from what?
Are you pouring sand in your oil filler neck?
Last time I checked the only way for
dirt to get into my engine would be thru
the air intake, a leaking vacuum port,
dipstick tube or the oil flller neck. I am
not counting the by-products of the
combustion process or babbitt material
from the bearings....
Appearance has little to do with the
diminished lubrication properties of the oil.
Oil thats changed based soley on the appearance
is probably being changed before its time.
But this 'oil going bad from dirt' is just silly.
Bad from combustion by-products, maybe.
I really want to know just exactly what is
getting in my clean oil that a filter can remove
partical size wise.
Whats the filter filtering anyhow.
Last edited by 157dB; 04-10-2009 at 11:56 AM.
#16
#17
Dirty from what?
Are you pouring sand in your oil filler neck?
Last time I checked the only way dirt
would be able to get into my engine
would be thru the air intake, a vacuum
port or the oil flller neck. I am not counting
by-products of the combustion process
or babbitt material from the bearings....
But this 'oil going bad from dirt' is just silly.
Bad from combustion by-products, maybe.
I really want to know just exactly what is
getting in my clean oil that a filter can remove
partical size wise.
Whats the filter filtering anyhow.
Are you pouring sand in your oil filler neck?
Last time I checked the only way dirt
would be able to get into my engine
would be thru the air intake, a vacuum
port or the oil flller neck. I am not counting
by-products of the combustion process
or babbitt material from the bearings....
But this 'oil going bad from dirt' is just silly.
Bad from combustion by-products, maybe.
I really want to know just exactly what is
getting in my clean oil that a filter can remove
partical size wise.
Whats the filter filtering anyhow.
to the OP 30K is a bit premature for a fluid flush. As stated 40-50K is more reasonable.
to others:
- ATF is used in manual transmissions as well these days.
- Dirty fluid as in the build up of "dirt" from tranny components that are wearing (metal flakes, plastic bits, etc. Not just dirt from the ground.
- Anyone that waits for 100K + to replace auto tranny fluid is asking for problems. If there are any big chunks of crap in the fluid, it could clog very small passage ways causing tranny failure. (Yes a tranny can crap out after a long overdue flushing because all of the dirt is now clogging vital passageways that would have otherwise just resitricted flow.)
#20
I think 3000 miles IS the official SOC engine oil change interval . . . so all that's left is to decide whether your use fits the SOC criteria (or somewhere between that and so-called "normal").
I'll go dig my owner's manual out again if I have to.
Norm
I'll go dig my owner's manual out again if I have to.
Norm