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Old 05-12-2010, 05:05 PM
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Alright, I'm nearly fed up with the useless search feature on the forum so I apologize for this post because I am SURE this has been asked before.

So...I just picked up a Saleen Series VI and it should arrive in a week or two. With my other mods I figure I'll be deep into 500 crank HP. I figured the Spec Stage 2+ clutch would be fine which is said to hold 670ft/lbs, but I went to order one from a local shop and the guy insisted I should go with a Stage 3 or 3+. Obviously the cost is more...

What should I do? And I've heard rumours the stage 3's wear out much faster than the stage 2's and also that daily driveability is drastically reduced on 2 vs 3 too, can someone clarify those myths for me?
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:10 PM
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i have a centerforce DF, i have 450 rwhp
i like the clutch. it holds very nicely. it is only slightly heavier than stock.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:11 PM
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i think the spec stage 2 will support that power as well.
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Ooops I forgot to mention that I have a Spec aluminum flywheel to go with it that I got off a friend for super cheap which is why I am going Spec.
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If it were me, I would buy more clutch than what you need now. A clutch isn't something that you want to replace more than once.
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:24 AM
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The stage 2+ drives so much better than the 3 from numerous reports in LS1 cars, I'm sure it's the same for the S197. If the 2+ supports your power (and it does), buy it. Puck type clutches are known for clutch chatter and won't be as smooth the the full face clutch. I agree with another poster about buying more clutch than you need, but so many times I bought more than I needed planning to upgrade later, and that upgrade never occurred. The only puck type clutch I have ever loved was the textralia. Unfortunately, they don't build them for the Mustang (that I know of).
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:58 AM
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I just recently ordered the Spec 3+, should get it today. After the install I do plan on writing a reveiw. From all of the reviews I've read the Spec 3 is more of an on/off switch which does chatter during the break in period. I tend to think this is the case for most of the aftermarket clutch set-ups with the expection of the McLoed RST twin disc set-up.

The reviews have said that the Spec 3+ is much more streetable than the Spec 3. The Spec 3 is more of a strip/street application verses the 3+ which is a more a street/strip application. I went with the 3+ because I plan on going to the strip just a few times a year. I do like the holding power if offers and the fact that its more of a street application that can handle the power that you throw at it, in my case a mere 462HP. I don't mind buying more clutch than I need.

I've read several reviews of the Spec 2 and Spec 2+. If these are your only options, I go with the 2+ and keep in mind that it will chatter. Just so you know some of the users of this clutch set-up ended up removing it, while others were able to manage the chatter, kind of 50/50.

Really, it all comes down to what you feel most comfortable with. If its your DD then I would go with the Spec 3+ over the 3.

See the link below for one of the reviews I came across during my research.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...e-3-owner.html
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I liked the Ram Powergrip HD, and have recently switched to a McLeod XRT twin disk. I like that better. Less pedal effort than stock.
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3+

the weight of our cars is a huge factor in the clutch holding/lasting. the 3+ is a proven clutch in our cars. I have one for about 7000 miles, 75+ track passes, has not missed a beat, a buddy had one for 500+ passes and it was good enough for another guy to put in his low 11s S197 and has had it for a year plus with out issue.
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spec stage 2+
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