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Old 01-08-2012, 03:48 AM   #21  
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i got a random question
what do you guys do with your guns? you refer to them as toys and they seem to bring you fun but all i can see when i look at them is self-defense and danger
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:40 AM   #22  
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Still got it better than those of us in the "communist state of Illinois" as my to be father in-law calls it lol. Things are so strict here its ridiculous. Can't wait to move to another state where I can actually enjoy guns.
It's the People's Republic of Chicago... CCW isn't strict. It's banded. We're the ONLY state in the union where you don't have some form of carry.
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I alternate carrying between these. Tennessee is very gun friendly.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:20 AM   #24  
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I alternate carrying between these. Tennessee is very gun friendly.
All very nice... God bless Texas for being gun friendly too... I'm glad I don't reside in a state that isn't.

To answer pastywhiteboy (great question btw), I love having them for a couple reasons. I am not sure how much exposure you have had to guns growing up or as an adult, but in my eyes they are tools, plain and simple, much like a hammer is to a carpenter or a skillet is to a chef. They do not pose an air of danger in my mind, I am more afraid of people and the terrible things we are capable of with/without a gun, as many people seek to harm others. While a gun can be used to kill someone, so can a baseball bat or a skillet when used to inflict blunt force trauma.

My Marlin 336 in WIN 30-30 (lever gun) is a tool used to provide sustenance when hunting. My handguns are tools for target practice and for self defense. While one is a practical reason (SD), I enjoy the target time at the range. It is fun, atleast to me, to put holes in paper. Who'd-a-thunkit?

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i got a random question
what do you guys do with your guns? you refer to them as toys and they seem to bring you fun but all i can see when i look at them is self-defense and danger
Don was spot on. A gun is no different then a hammer or shovel. It serves a purpose and while we might refer to them in conversation with levity, I dont know of any of my friends or family (goes without saying I do too!) who do not view them with a great deal of respect. I used to shoot when I was young and in fact, loved it so much I tried out for SEALS in '89, but got my a-- whooped in the first round. I have the utmost respect for those warriors. I have 2 friends who are ex SpecOps and many ex-mil friends too. When I left the Navy, I had a lot of anger issues and left shooting behind. About 2 years ago, a guy claiming to be a cop pulled my wife over and luckily I was in a training class close to her. I got down to her location but the guy had taken off on his crotch rocket and eluded my attempts to find him. It was at that point I decided that depending on a hammer or a shovel for self defense wasnt going to work and I felt like I had overcome my anger issues. So that's why I got back into shooting and I love it more than ever. It is a hobby as well...and its' definitely enjoyable...but if someone threatens my family or our well being, I refuse to stand idly by and let that ever occur again. I will not hesitate to do what needs to be done. And if Im not carrying, believe me that I wouldnt hesitate to use anything at my disposal for self defense including my car. This isnt high school any more gentlemen and Im too old to play games like that.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:47 AM   #26  
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i got a random question
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Cowboy Action Shooting! That's where my handle comes from

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It's the People's Republic of Chicago... CCW isn't strict. It's banded. We're the ONLY state in the union where you don't have some form of carry.
So true. It's really only a debate because of Chicago, the rest of the state would favor some form of carry law that allowed carrying.
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It's the People's Republic of Chicago... CCW isn't strict. It's banded. We're the ONLY state in the union where you don't have some form of carry.
California does not allow a form of carry for any non LEO (correct me if I'm wrong)
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California does not allow a form of carry for any non LEO (correct me if I'm wrong)
http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/

California "may issue" a CCW. See link... Wisconsin has now permitted CCW. Illinois is the ONLY state where it's not allowed.
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And of course, CA does allow open carry but there's some rules about it...
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