Swapping in new gears; some questions
09-12-2012, 08:00 PM
#11
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09-14-2012, 02:28 AM
#13
The Paranoid One
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Texas
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Make sure the FRRP's you ordered dont have an M at the item number at the end.
They are made by Motive. They are not as strong and have causes a lot of grief for people!
Some people say this is not true but after seeing four of my buds have this happen, I can attest to it.
They are not built as strong and cause problems from gear whine, to worse.
They cost about the same so no use in taking the risk my friend!
IF you did get the Motive gears send them back.
Its not worth the hassle of the instal, problems, then ordering the right ones, install, and breaking them in again.
If you are doing something. Do it right the first time brotha!
They are made by Motive. They are not as strong and have causes a lot of grief for people!
Some people say this is not true but after seeing four of my buds have this happen, I can attest to it.
They are not built as strong and cause problems from gear whine, to worse.
They cost about the same so no use in taking the risk my friend!
IF you did get the Motive gears send them back.
Its not worth the hassle of the instal, problems, then ordering the right ones, install, and breaking them in again.
If you are doing something. Do it right the first time brotha!
Last edited by Blacksmoke; 09-14-2012 at 02:31 AM.
09-14-2012, 03:43 AM
#14
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Utah
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My experience with the 4.10 install
1. Gears and oil are all I had done. I had prolly 37k on the odometer and my installer said that my bearings were immaculate and I don't require new ones for many, many miles (I baby my car 90% of the time is why). You bought yours so do it anyways.
2. My break in period included a nonstop 150 mile drive home at highway speeds and just going easy on the throttle. I drove it like a new car for a week. My installer works on Mustangs and nothing else and they specifically said that I will be fine doing so. Some people will swear up and down that you absolutely need heat/cool cycles as soon as you drive the car or the world will end. I'm sure this has truth to it but I drive normally and don't have big HP so I felt fine listening to my installer. Do what you want with your car as long as you feel confortable when doing it. I have absolutely no whine or issues after 20k+ miles on the odometer since then.
3. I used Royal Purple in factory wieght. When I asked about friction modifiers, my installer told me they have RedLine but Royal Purple already has modifiers in it and I would be wasting my money. It even says on the bottle as well as the RP website. Even American Muscle will tell you the same exact thing. You will run across those here that swear otherwise but I trusted AM when I bought my oil and have had zero issues.
EDIT: Don't forget to change the gear ratio with your handheld tuner!
1. Gears and oil are all I had done. I had prolly 37k on the odometer and my installer said that my bearings were immaculate and I don't require new ones for many, many miles (I baby my car 90% of the time is why). You bought yours so do it anyways.
2. My break in period included a nonstop 150 mile drive home at highway speeds and just going easy on the throttle. I drove it like a new car for a week. My installer works on Mustangs and nothing else and they specifically said that I will be fine doing so. Some people will swear up and down that you absolutely need heat/cool cycles as soon as you drive the car or the world will end. I'm sure this has truth to it but I drive normally and don't have big HP so I felt fine listening to my installer. Do what you want with your car as long as you feel confortable when doing it. I have absolutely no whine or issues after 20k+ miles on the odometer since then.
3. I used Royal Purple in factory wieght. When I asked about friction modifiers, my installer told me they have RedLine but Royal Purple already has modifiers in it and I would be wasting my money. It even says on the bottle as well as the RP website. Even American Muscle will tell you the same exact thing. You will run across those here that swear otherwise but I trusted AM when I bought my oil and have had zero issues.
EDIT: Don't forget to change the gear ratio with your handheld tuner!
Last edited by Ricardo; 09-14-2012 at 03:47 AM.
09-14-2012, 10:40 PM
#16
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Also, do these require a new tune or can I just change the gear ratio selection on my SCT tuner?
Last edited by WildAzCat; 09-14-2012 at 11:19 PM.
09-15-2012, 04:38 AM
#17
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Carolina
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My experience with the 4.10 install
1. Gears and oil are all I had done. I had prolly 37k on the odometer and my installer said that my bearings were immaculate and I don't require new ones for many, many miles (I baby my car 90% of the time is why). You bought yours so do it anyways.
2. My break in period included a nonstop 150 mile drive home at highway speeds and just going easy on the throttle. I drove it like a new car for a week. My installer works on Mustangs and nothing else and they specifically said that I will be fine doing so. Some people will swear up and down that you absolutely need heat/cool cycles as soon as you drive the car or the world will end. I'm sure this has truth to it but I drive normally and don't have big HP so I felt fine listening to my installer. Do what you want with your car as long as you feel confortable when doing it. I have absolutely no whine or issues after 20k+ miles on the odometer since then.
3. I used Royal Purple in factory wieght. When I asked about friction modifiers, my installer told me they have RedLine but Royal Purple already has modifiers in it and I would be wasting my money. It even says on the bottle as well as the RP website. Even American Muscle will tell you the same exact thing. You will run across those here that swear otherwise but I trusted AM when I bought my oil and have had zero issues.
EDIT: Don't forget to change the gear ratio with your handheld tuner!
1. Gears and oil are all I had done. I had prolly 37k on the odometer and my installer said that my bearings were immaculate and I don't require new ones for many, many miles (I baby my car 90% of the time is why). You bought yours so do it anyways.
2. My break in period included a nonstop 150 mile drive home at highway speeds and just going easy on the throttle. I drove it like a new car for a week. My installer works on Mustangs and nothing else and they specifically said that I will be fine doing so. Some people will swear up and down that you absolutely need heat/cool cycles as soon as you drive the car or the world will end. I'm sure this has truth to it but I drive normally and don't have big HP so I felt fine listening to my installer. Do what you want with your car as long as you feel confortable when doing it. I have absolutely no whine or issues after 20k+ miles on the odometer since then.
3. I used Royal Purple in factory wieght. When I asked about friction modifiers, my installer told me they have RedLine but Royal Purple already has modifiers in it and I would be wasting my money. It even says on the bottle as well as the RP website. Even American Muscle will tell you the same exact thing. You will run across those here that swear otherwise but I trusted AM when I bought my oil and have had zero issues.
EDIT: Don't forget to change the gear ratio with your handheld tuner!
09-15-2012, 05:20 AM
#18
The Paranoid One
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,320
I would EMPHASIZE that you DO follow the break in period.
Some people get away with not doing it but MANY end up getting gear whine or run into problems down the road when they do not properly break them in.
Some people get away with not doing it but MANY end up getting gear whine or run into problems down the road when they do not properly break them in.
09-15-2012, 05:24 AM
#19
The Paranoid One
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,320
Post a link to the ones you are looking at.
I'm not sure that an M on front is o.k.
They may have changed the M from the back to the front.
In fact I believe I read where Motive gears DO start with the M at
the front many times.
You don't want Motive gears.
You can change the gear ratio with your handheld tuner.
09-15-2012, 05:36 AM
#20
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Carolina
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I agree, but I'd bet some of those issues are simply caused by an incorrect installation. Hopefully I continue to operate problem free.