Originally Posted by Derf00 (Post 8384772)

What about the use of ceramics pads? While they still suffer from less bite when cold, They have less dust than OEM type pads, better bite when hot and they do very well to resist brake fade. Although I also have DOT 4 fluid in my system instead of the DOT 3 the OEM uses which also contributes to the less fade.

Also, way less dust and noise than OEM types (semi metallic).

I've used ceramics for DD on all of our cars when replacing the stockers and have never looked back.

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson (Post 8384483)

Pads and fluid first, because those are the places where fade lives. Better lines may improve pedal feel, but can't improve fade resistance.

There is a caveat regarding better pads, and that involves your own personal tolerance for things like less effective cold bite, more brake dust, more noise, and greater rotor wear. Those are the typical side effects of pads that have better warm to hot bite and higher temperature capability. If you can live with that, entry level track pads such as Carbotech's XP8 or Hawk's HP+ are at least marginally streetable. If not, then maybe Carbotech's 1521 or maybe AX6, or Hawk's HPS would be better choices.


ATE Amber fluid will be good enough for your uses - it's good enough to hold up under at least entry-level road course 30 minute HPDE track sessions with stockish power and running on street tires.


Slotted rotors seem to resist getting scored by grit getting trapped between them and the pads, which is a decent street advantage, and definitely good enough for the uses you describe. But I'd rather see you on plain rotors for anything beyond introductory road course HPDE use.


Norm