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Old 06-27-2014, 10:58 AM
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^wot he said
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:23 AM
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Anyone can get a road force balancer, but it takes someone that knows their **** and actually cares to get your tires balanced correctly. It's not as easy as "put the x weight here"
Agreed!

Did they balance them with stick on wgts or clip on? I ask because using stick on wgts often requires a bit of "SWAGing" by the person operating the balancer based on readout. Rarely can you use exact wgt as balancer says .... and it requires experience. I just went through this .... and the fellow got mine about as perfect as I can imagine them being.

Next time, the strapped on TPMSs are gonna be removed and I'll live with the light.





I'm 60, I've used a lot of different wheels, aftermarket and OEM both over the years in a wide variety of applications. Most of those aftermarket wheels were not "hub centric", they simply relied on the lugs to locate .... and only one set of wheels ever gave me problems. They were a set of "Appliance Dia Mags" in 4 lug version on our '85 Thunderbird we used to have ('86-'09), the lugs had a fat part that went in a slotted hole of the wheel and would fit several patterns, but the slight slop meant the wheel was never centered exactly .... but close. After wearing out two sets of tires over 60-70K miles, I sourced a set of OEM 15x7 10 hole wheels and went with 225/60-15 tires for last 3 sets.

I've used the old school Cragar SS with unilugs (and they never located on the hub .... nor did Keystones, American Mags, etc .... not on my cars .... and not on Dick Landy's or Ronnie Sox's or any of Grumpy's toys), on my '65 GTO with just 7/16" studs and never a problem and that car ran 13s on street tires (L60-14 on 14x8 DD Cragars) with a built 400, later 421 .... spinning a Hays 40 pound flywheel and 4 spd WOT shifts and 4.10s .... it got hammered regularly and I sometimes replaced a stud when I stripped or broke one with a 4way lug wrench.

Now a days, most wheels use a lug nut with some form of cone seat on it that will center the stud in the wheel hole. Once tightened to 90-100 ft lbs, the wheel is clamped tight to the hub. The studs on most cars are now 12mm, 14mm, or 1/2" usually, and of "good steel" .... stronger than what those 7/16" GM studs were back when.

My '77 F-150 4X4 (heavy) has it's OEM wheel studs still, 5 of them at each wheel, 1/2"-20 thread, and it's had aftermarket wheels from the day I laid eyes on it in 1986 to today, and the center holes of the wheels have never been close to "hub centric", the lugs always have been all that centered them .... and with heavy 31/10.50-15 tires on the 15x8 wheels .... if not centered they'ld bounce bad .... but that truck is smooth at 35 or 70 and I've hauled a bunch of heavy loads on it over the last 28 years.

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Old 06-27-2014, 11:30 AM
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for the sake of a few dollars i would never ever drive a car without hub rings..my v6 mustang was undrivable untill i fitted them..i have read stories of the wheels breaking off without the rings..
just google it and you'll find hub rings are essential..

read here

http://www.dtdirl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107653

i just ordered a new set ..cost about 10 dollars for 4...it's a no brainer and will put your mind at ease..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-SPIGOT...item33787b8ad0

the mustang hub size is 70.1 mm lads

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Old 06-28-2014, 11:17 AM
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Find a shop that has RoadForce balancer. It'll pick up problems that a standard speed balance won't. I had a new tire with a bad belt that balanced goose eggs twice on a standard balance but on the RoadForce it identified the tire as defective.
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Old 06-28-2014, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by caunyd
Hi guys. After switching to aftermarket wheels with new tires, I have noticed vibration in the steering wheel when driving on the freeway (there is no way that this steering wheel shaking is normal). I had the tires balanced with a hunter road force machine, but I still feel the vibration. What do you think is wrong? Thanks.
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Old 06-28-2014, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jz78817
what Rudolph said. he's calling them "spigot rings," but here you'll probably find them as "hub centering" or "hub centric" rings. The wheels are supposed to be centered by the hub, not the lug nuts. The factory wheels are machined to fit the Mustang's hubs precisely; aftermarket wheels can't because they have to fit a wider range of cars. If you just throw the wheels on there and tighten the nuts, the wheel can be off-center which will cause a *bad* vibration.
Does this include wheels from companies like Steeda that make basically nothing but mustang specific parts?
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Old 06-28-2014, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gmoran1469
Does this include wheels from companies like Steeda that make basically nothing but mustang specific parts?
you'd have to ask them.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:07 AM
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just fitted my new tight hub rings..there isn't a single hint of wheel shake..aftermarket wheels need to sit tight on the hub dudes..relying on the wheel nuts is a big no no safety wise
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Old 07-12-2014, 03:42 AM
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just thought of something..ok if i leave my car for more than 3 days sitting in the garage my tyres flat spot terribly..it takes about 30 miles untill they smooth out...now if your having your wheels balanced with a flat spot then it will never be ok..i am going to drive mine to a tyre shop 50 miles away then get them checked..
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:34 AM
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Man I just got done battling this for months. I took it to Discount three times, three different shops. They finally remounted all the tires and with the third balance got it straightened out. Such an infuriating situation.
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