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Old 03-01-2010, 06:00 PM
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I'm sure with the closer geared 6speed stick the '11 V-6 will surprise some sleeping '05-'09 GT drivers, but you gotta remember, the '11 V-6 gets dual exhaust, the 8.8 lsd diff and I'm sure the new 6speed has to weigh a lil more than the outgoing 5speed in the older GT. The weight difference probably isn't more than 100lb(I've seen specs where a 2011 V-6 weighs over 3600lb, more than the '05-'09 GT), so who knows at this point. Funny thing, most '05-'09 GTs dyno around 265-270rwhp stock, that's really around 307-311 flywheel hp. Until an '11 V-6 is strapped to a dyno, we won't know the whole story. As to a concept that an '11 V-6 can be "tuned" to higher hp levels without going FI will be a mystery to me as the car is already highly tuned from the factory. A '05-'09 GT can be "bolted up" to produce around 295-310rwhp(which equates to 330-340ish hp at the flywheel). I think the 2011 V-6 was long overdue(as was the 5.0L GT!) and the breed continues to improve, we all win . As to which car to get? If I was a young man(under 25) I'd say the V-6(for insurance purposes and the younger crowd seems to enjoy the "latest thing out"), but for an older person(as me) I'd rather have an older V-8 model, I was raised with muscle cars and Mustang is a V-8 car IMO. No offense to any non-V-8 owners, but that's my opinion.............
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I could not agree more! even as a younger guy (21) I would take my older v8 over a newer equally as powerful v6 any day of the week. Performance is a big deal and all but nothing has the swagger of a roaring american V8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and shoot i can get a couple bolt-on's and be good to go haha

exactly. if anyone was given the choice between a 4.6l v8 and the new v6 of equal power... you'd be a fool to choose the v6. they're producing amazing numbers with the v6 coming out, but it just isn't the same without 8 cylinders under the hood, regardless of the power output
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Old 03-01-2010, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by swat 79 View Post
That must suck for the 05-09 gts, a v-6 with more hp then their v8?
This is nothing new. The 4.0L v6 had nearly the same hp as the outgoing 5.0l in 1995. It will only be a matter of time when the emisson standards change again and the gt will be back to 200 hp and the v6 will be pushing a measley 140hp.
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PNYXPRESS View Post
This is nothing new. The 4.0L v6 had nearly the same hp as the outgoing 5.0l in 1995. It will only be a matter of time when the emisson standards change again and the gt will be back to 200 hp and the v6 will be pushing a measley 140hp.
LMAO! Very true, it could happen............
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:56 PM
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I could see the new 3.7L doing 0-60 around 5.7-5.8... Fords just making sure it wins against camaro and challenger V6 models
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Old 03-01-2010, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PNYXPRESS View Post
This is nothing new. The 4.0L v6 had nearly the same hp as the outgoing 5.0l in 1995. It will only be a matter of time when the emisson standards change again and the gt will be back to 200 hp and the v6 will be pushing a measley 140hp.

True, that's why I plan to hold onto this v-8 for years to come! And plus 1, equal everything, i'll take a v-8 time and time again.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:24 AM
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Aren't the emission laws changing? I was reading somewhere I just don't remember what year.
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:18 AM
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4.236 Low Gear in the MT82 for the V6. That means the 2011 V6 w/ 3.31 is going to have an essentially equal launch ratio as a 2005-2009 GT with a 4.10. That will make up some of the torque issues. A limited slip rear axle is also standard (I suspect its an 8.8 although that has not been confirmed).

While peak power will be similar I suspect average power during the run (which is what gives you your ET) will be less for the 2011 V6 than a 2005+ GT. Im somewhat doubtful you will get a a stock 2011 V6 into the low 13's with a 2005+ GT I do expect it to run high 13's and give 1999-2004 GT's fits.
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According to the latest April issue of Motor Trend on the 2011 V6;

Base Price $22,995
Engine 3.7L/305-hp/280-lb-ft DOCH 24 valve V-6
Curb Weight 3400 lb (est)
0-60 mph 5.8 sec. (MT est.)
EPA city/hwy fuel 18-19/29-30 (est)
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 07 Stang View Post
According to the latest April issue of Motor Trend on the 2011 V6;

Base Price $22,995
Engine 3.7L/305-hp/280-lb-ft DOCH 24 valve V-6
Curb Weight 3400 lb (est)
0-60 mph 5.8 sec. (MT est.)
EPA city/hwy fuel 18-19/29-30 (est)
Wow, the new V6 weighs 50 pounds more than my GT and weighs the same as a 2010 GT.

5.8 seconds 0-60 is about what I though it would be - a definite improvement on the 05-10 V6 though (just like the 2011 GT will be a definite improvement on the 05-10 GT).

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Old 03-08-2010, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jdmcbride View Post
Wow, the new V6 weighs 50 pounds more than my GT and weighs the same as a 2010 GT.


...waiting on response from swat...

http://mustangs.about.com/od/modelye...s-challeng.htm
2008 mustang gt curb weight 3540 (premium, auto)

http://autos.yahoo.com/2008_ford_mus...e_coupe-specs/
2008 mustang gt curb weight 3450 (deluxe, manual)


Now, there's plenty more to keep going, but you get the idea, stock, your car weighs 50 lbs MORE.


The v-6 Lbs per power is - 11.14
and the lbs per tq is- 12.14

The gt lbs per power is- 11.50
and the lbs per tq is- 10.78


While the v6 has a better power to weight ratio then the gt, the gt has a much better tq to weight ratio then the v-6. However as said earlier, the gearing on the v-6 will make up for that tq disadvantage. Now, after looking at that, if you really think that this car will do 0-60 in 5.8 seconds when the car is ready to be purchased, you got something else coming to you. 0-60 in 5.3-5.6 and the quarter mile in 13.9. It will not be faster then the 05-09's, however it will be breathing right down their necks, and close by the 10's.
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