2011 v6 Auto idle RPM
#11
Yeah, 2010 GT and 2011 V6 is like apples and oranges. Now a comparison between the new 5.0 and the3.7 is okay due to them both using the advanced variable timing and better ECU. i have been formally documenting my MPGs on fueleconomy.gov and my 93 octane tanks always do better than my 87 tanks unless I end up driving hard or just have worse traffic than normal.
#12
Youre not going to see 20 hp more, but i bet the increase is somewhere between 5-10hp. And the price difference is typically less than $3 a tank, and I am typically able to travel 20-30 miles more on the 93 tank so it just about nullifies the extra cost.
#13
Actually, the ECU in the 2011 Mustang is much more advanced then the model used in the 2010 Mustang. This article is worth a complete read:
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...v6_engine.html
However, in part it says:
"The powertrain ECU has been upgraded with a very aggressive deceleration cylinder shutoff for fuel economy, coupled with very rapid tip-in for street performance. On the flip side, the ECU has been reprogrammed with adaptive-knock spark control. If the two knock sensors embedded in the cylinder block don't hear knocking, the ECU will keep advancing the spark until it does.
What this means in performance terms is that, if the owner uses premium or race gas on weekends, the engine should make considerably more power and torque than the numbers quoted here, which are the product of standard SAE dynamometer laboratory testing procedures and not real-world driving."
So, yes the V6 engine will perform differently on 91/93 octane fuel then on 87 octane fuel.
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...v6_engine.html
However, in part it says:
"The powertrain ECU has been upgraded with a very aggressive deceleration cylinder shutoff for fuel economy, coupled with very rapid tip-in for street performance. On the flip side, the ECU has been reprogrammed with adaptive-knock spark control. If the two knock sensors embedded in the cylinder block don't hear knocking, the ECU will keep advancing the spark until it does.
What this means in performance terms is that, if the owner uses premium or race gas on weekends, the engine should make considerably more power and torque than the numbers quoted here, which are the product of standard SAE dynamometer laboratory testing procedures and not real-world driving."
So, yes the V6 engine will perform differently on 91/93 octane fuel then on 87 octane fuel.
#14
With the "tuner tunes," often the operating conditions - like spark timing - are changed so much that the ECU can't adjust "far enough" to accomodate lower octane fuels. So with a "91 octane "tune"" the dynamic range of the ECU controls are not wide enough to handle 87 octane fuel. That is even true for the Ford "performance tune" for the 2011 GT - which apparently makes significant adjustments of the TIVCT to gain over 60ft-lbs of torque at low RPMs - but requires only use of 91 octane fuel.
#16
Both the V6 and V8's both have adaptive spark, and both will adjust to higher octane. Both will make more power on higher octane - to a point. So far as I recall, the idle tables shouldn't be changed from low to high octane fuel, so the difference you are seeing in idle quality is probably a placebo effect.
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