Gears 2.73 to 3.73
#21
first off, thanks to the OP for making this thread.. i was just starting to search for info regarding this upgrade and someone already got the good info flowin!
since all of the questions i had have been asked and answered, i only have one other question. does anyone know how much this whole procedure should cost? Sure the gears are like $160, but what should the cost of install be? I had one shop quote me at $500 not including cost for parts. what price is a good one here? thanks!
since all of the questions i had have been asked and answered, i only have one other question. does anyone know how much this whole procedure should cost? Sure the gears are like $160, but what should the cost of install be? I had one shop quote me at $500 not including cost for parts. what price is a good one here? thanks!
If shop #1 says $500 and says they charge $100 bucks an hour (5 hours)
and shop 2 says $300 but charges $150 an hour (2 hours) why is the $300 shop charging so much less, what are they not doing that the $500 shop is?
Maybe the more expensive shop is doing a bunch of other stuff that the $300 shop isn't? Or maybe the more expensive shop is charging a flat rate (you might be able to negotiate then).
Best way to get a baseline. Call your local ford Service shop and find out how many hours their manuals tell them a gear swap should take. Then go shopping with that info.
#22
first off, thanks to the OP for making this thread.. i was just starting to search for info regarding this upgrade and someone already got the good info flowin!
since all of the questions i had have been asked and answered, i only have one other question. does anyone know how much this whole procedure should cost? Sure the gears are like $160, but what should the cost of install be? I had one shop quote me at $500 not including cost for parts. what price is a good one here? thanks!
since all of the questions i had have been asked and answered, i only have one other question. does anyone know how much this whole procedure should cost? Sure the gears are like $160, but what should the cost of install be? I had one shop quote me at $500 not including cost for parts. what price is a good one here? thanks!
#23
I think the cost also depends on the part of the country you're in. I paid $489.99 for my install which included parts, labor, fluids and one year warranty. I already had a tuner and had lower control arms put on at the same time.
#24
Who installed the 2.73s that is in there now?
The V6es came with 3.31s OEM.
A jump from 3.31s to 3.73s will make your
5th gear seem like fourth gear is now with
a manual tranny.
I dont EVER use fifth gear now so a swap to 3.73s
would make sense for me.
The V6es came with 3.31s OEM.
A jump from 3.31s to 3.73s will make your
5th gear seem like fourth gear is now with
a manual tranny.
I dont EVER use fifth gear now so a swap to 3.73s
would make sense for me.
#25
FYI,
I just got my car quoted at the dealer (Chicago area) and at a reputable independent shop that has rear end experience. Dealer wanted $1100, they supplied gear install parts (bearings seals ect.) but I had to supply 3:73 ring and pinion set. Dealer would not warranty the part unless it was Ford Racing
gears.
The independent shop said labor was $540 and they reccomended I supply all parts (bearing kit and ring/pinion) they would guarantee work for 1 yr. So with parts and labor independent shop was cheaper at $814 vs $1279.
Ford dealer: $1100 labor and parts + my gears at $179 = $1279
Ind. Shop: $540 labor + my kit $95 + my gears $179 = $814
Guess who I'm going with?
Tom
I just got my car quoted at the dealer (Chicago area) and at a reputable independent shop that has rear end experience. Dealer wanted $1100, they supplied gear install parts (bearings seals ect.) but I had to supply 3:73 ring and pinion set. Dealer would not warranty the part unless it was Ford Racing
gears.
The independent shop said labor was $540 and they reccomended I supply all parts (bearing kit and ring/pinion) they would guarantee work for 1 yr. So with parts and labor independent shop was cheaper at $814 vs $1279.
Ford dealer: $1100 labor and parts + my gears at $179 = $1279
Ind. Shop: $540 labor + my kit $95 + my gears $179 = $814
Guess who I'm going with?
Tom
#26
I do get a weird harmonic vibration in my car at about 105-110 and I'm absolutely sure its not the tires. It feels like something is "whirring/ringing weirdly" but whatever it is the rest of the car feels solid and the vibration seems to emulate from under my console. I don't know for sure if its the DS or not but I've never gone beyond that speed due to the "fear" that the DS will go. So I've got a new DS on the short list after my 3:73s go in because I do go triple digits from time to time.
I was wondering though why more people don't just by a safety loop like this one from LRS
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/BMR-DSL010B/Mustang-Gt-Black-Hammertone-Front-Driveshaft-Safety-Loop
To protect themselves and the car. Seems like a much better plan than dropping $600 on the AL DS. Am I missing something?
Tom
#27
So not to beat a dead horse but what is the general rule for the 3.7's with an auto? I know in my '95 we would go 3.73's for the 5 speed, and 4.10's with the auto's. Is that still the case? My '11 is a DD and sees NO track time. But it does need gears. The OEM ones are just toooooo low.
Matthew
Matthew
#28
So not to beat a dead horse but what is the general rule for the 3.7's with an auto? I know in my '95 we would go 3.73's for the 5 speed, and 4.10's with the auto's. Is that still the case? My '11 is a DD and sees NO track time. But it does need gears. The OEM ones are just toooooo low.
Matthew
Matthew
I'm planning on calling a Ford dealership Monday and to get a quote on this install. I wish I could do it myself but that just isn't happening.
#29
The 2.73's are low for sure, I've been milling over 3.55's for my manual when I get around to having them swapped out because I don't want to give up much fuel economy but definitely want to wake the car up a little bit. Then again if I had been able to find a deal on a car equipped with 3.31's I'd probably not be thinking of a gear swap in general so I've not been pondering the 3.73's much.
#30
Actually, I've been wondering about this anyway with my planned gear upgrade. Now I know I'm in the 3.7L section with a 4.0 but I think the driveshaft discussion applies to both.
I do get a weird harmonic vibration in my car at about 105-110 and I'm absolutely sure its not the tires. It feels like something is "whirring/ringing weirdly" but whatever it is the rest of the car feels solid and the vibration seems to emulate from under my console. I don't know for sure if its the DS or not but I've never gone beyond that speed due to the "fear" that the DS will go. So I've got a new DS on the short list after my 3:73s go in because I do go triple digits from time to time.
I was wondering though why more people don't just by a safety loop like this one from LRS
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...ft-Safety-Loop
To protect themselves and the car. Seems like a much better plan than dropping $600 on the AL DS. Am I missing something?
Tom
I do get a weird harmonic vibration in my car at about 105-110 and I'm absolutely sure its not the tires. It feels like something is "whirring/ringing weirdly" but whatever it is the rest of the car feels solid and the vibration seems to emulate from under my console. I don't know for sure if its the DS or not but I've never gone beyond that speed due to the "fear" that the DS will go. So I've got a new DS on the short list after my 3:73s go in because I do go triple digits from time to time.
I was wondering though why more people don't just by a safety loop like this one from LRS
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...ft-Safety-Loop
To protect themselves and the car. Seems like a much better plan than dropping $600 on the AL DS. Am I missing something?
Tom
For me, a one-piece aluminum driveshaft is a no-brainer. The OEM one on my S197 weights almost twice that of the aftermarket ones Don't know if I would get a DS Loop simply because I never track the car and don't plan on gettin over 100 (too often).
Incidently, I just got a quote from an independent shop here in AZ to install gears, new bearings and seals, and my DS for $659. I supply all parts and fluids.