2000GT4.6

Other than to make more power there is no reason you need to forge the internals to run a blower. The car will make over 400 RWHP on the stock shortblock with a good tune.

On the 8.8 you are also FINE unless you run anything more stickey than a nitto D/R. The ET streets for example might break a stock 8.8. A set of 31 spline axles and a new diff would take care of any reliabilty problems with stickey tires, with a diff cover just to be sure.

so1o2k3

what if you were to use 14 lbs of boost? Also, does it matter what kind of supercharger your running whether you should strengthen the internals?

01saleen144

Im running a procharger p1sc-2. Also have upgraded maf, cobra tank and pumps, anderson power pipe, sct chip, 3.73 gears, mac o/r, and couple other minor things. Car put down 426hp/425tq. All said and done, it was $8500. Also, i it depends on which procharger ure comparing to the blowzilla. If ure comparing a p1 to a kb2.2, id say kb. But if ure comparing d1 to a 2.2, i say its personal preference. Also, the kb will cost at least 8000, if not more. The kit was what, $5400?? Say, $1200 for install and tune. I think a chip is 300?? Cobra tank and pumps is like 900(brand new). bigger injectors say 350. maf like 200? The cold air kit u need for the 2.2, like 250?? And Im sure theres gonna be other little things along they. So without the little things, thats 8500. I also saw a post above where he said his procharger is quiet. Mine whistle's like crazy at idle. And on the throttle, the thing just screams. I personally love it. I dont know how many times Ive reved the motor with people looking at it and scared the $h!t out of people when the bypass valve goes off. Its pretty funny. And I have to agree with 2000 4.6gt, who starts a race at 1500 rpms? I know if I get on it, its at at least 3500 rpms. And nothing against a kb(they make a great blower) but up top in the hp levels off where a procharger keeps pulling right through. Sorry its soo long, but I love my procharger. Also, for the link above for vortech, werent the tests for that done at the vortech labs?? I think they're might be a little bias there. Check out www.procharger.com for what they had to say about the tests.

IWinULose

Kit is $5400. Install yourself, and say a tune is $400-$500. You don't need a tank, chip or pumps. The KB kits come with the boost a pump. Injectors are $300-$400, MAF is $200. Most people already have a CAI here, and if they don't, can get it for $200. That boils down to $5400(kit) + $1100-$1300 for extras. Thats $6500 to $6700 for the whole setup. Even if you had $1600 in extras, you're going to be $1500 shy of $8500.

EDIT: lol..if you want loud, try a twin screw with cog = http://videos.streetfire.net/video/B...2D50F0E5CB.htm

01saleen144

I guess if you installed it yourself you could save a bunch of money. Id also be worried about making the kind of horsepower and making sure the motor has enough fuel, even with the bap.

2000GT4.6

Where are you getting your info on the vortech kit BTW?? The S trim is good for around 650 RWHP. I have not seen many, if any, 2V cars running more than 700 RWHP anyway, regardless of blower.

VARifleman

INTERNALS!!!! I mentioned it once, and you ignored it. You forgot about 2000-2500 for the forged intenals that you need to run the blowzilla. Do some research instead of spreading bad info on what you need to do to run such a large displacement supercharger, info that could cause someone's engine to blow up right infront of them.

You also DO need a new pump to run that kit because the stock pump can't handle the new injectors, you need a new air kit because it's an oval throttle body, etc. There's a lot that you weren't taking into account because either you're forgetting about it, or you haven't done any research on that supercharger.

2000GT4.6

I think everyone thinks the 1.7L is the same as the 2.2L kit. I also think that everyone seems to think you are gonna make a ton more power on a 2.2L kit than on anything else.

KB 2.2L = a TON of cash on the same performance. Get a centrifgal and spend all of that extra money on a forged bottom end, some cams, or something else.

VARifleman

I wasn't saying anything about the performance of one compared to another, because I'm still learning a lot about the, but one of the cars that MPH built went from a vortec to a novi to a kenne bell 2.2...

2000GT4.6

on the strip, all other things equal vortech > KB

And if you are working on a limited budget, all things will not be equal. I could have a car with stock exahust manifolds, and cams, or I could have my setup with a vortech