high reving NA setup
05-09-2006, 09:58 PM
#11
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RE: high reving NA setup
ORIGINAL: Dragon02GT
Talk to Code3gt. He has a N/A which dyno's at 342 rwhp. He has A LOT of money put into that car. To get close to 350 HP you are gonna be spending over 10g if you go N/A. You need a bottom end on that motor that will handle the high revs with a big cam. The bigger cams have a powerband that goes allt he way up to 7000 or so RPM's. Your stock bottom end will only handle about 6000 RPM, so you are gonna need forged internals, better intake (P-51 from Fox Lake is what I recommend), ported and polished heads, and probably a bigger cam than a stage 2, some type of grind in between a stage 2 and 3 or just go to a stage 3 cam grind. You would be best off buying a built shortblock w/ forged internals to start off. Honestly, if you don;t wann go much above 375-400 RWHP a supercharger would be the best route. If you wanna get more than 400 RWHP then you should buy a built shortblock, do cams and head work, new intake, and then supercharger. But that all depends on how far you plan on taking it. A supercharger will run you $4g's, which is much less than the cost of getting 350 HP N/A, and will give more HP. But if you don;t want that, just expect to spend a lot of $$$$$.
ORIGINAL: boss281
its a GT i just have the cdc shaker hood. i dont really know what parts im gonna need. am i gonna need new internals??? if so what would you recomend. thanks
its a GT i just have the cdc shaker hood. i dont really know what parts im gonna need. am i gonna need new internals??? if so what would you recomend. thanks
05-09-2006, 10:11 PM
#12
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RE: high reving NA setup
ORIGINAL: Niteryder
From stock that means you have to pickup another 100+HP or so. Might be cheaper to go s/c.
ORIGINAL: boss281
ive been thinking about staying NA, maybe getting stage 2 cams and heads but im not really sure about what else ill need and how much it will cost. is 350hp at the wheels a realistic goal????
ive been thinking about staying NA, maybe getting stage 2 cams and heads but im not really sure about what else ill need and how much it will cost. is 350hp at the wheels a realistic goal????
Its cool to go N/A, but only if you plan on spraying nitrous on top of it. If you don't all you will have is a 10k engine still getting beat by bolton only ls1 cars
05-09-2006, 10:27 PM
#13
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RE: high reving NA setup
ken bjones made 368 rwhp with a 13:1 compression motor on race gas and a cam that won't idle.
with a stroker motor you can do it, like VT's 324, but that's a $5500 shortblock alone. (you dont have an aluminum block to get a core charge) plus alot of headwork and a nasty cam. so yea, like said, a 10 thousand dollar motor. literally. plus supporting mods.
not much of a street car.
300-320 on pump gas is possible with a really good head cam and intake setup.
with a stroker motor you can do it, like VT's 324, but that's a $5500 shortblock alone. (you dont have an aluminum block to get a core charge) plus alot of headwork and a nasty cam. so yea, like said, a 10 thousand dollar motor. literally. plus supporting mods.
not much of a street car.
300-320 on pump gas is possible with a really good head cam and intake setup.
05-10-2006, 05:21 AM
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RE: high reving NA setup
ORIGINAL: Supergreen
very realistic in my opinion. depending on the heads and cams ive seen a 60 hp increase. i think its doable. its good to see someone else looking for it the hard way. im also looking for 350 NA
very realistic in my opinion. depending on the heads and cams ive seen a 60 hp increase. i think its doable. its good to see someone else looking for it the hard way. im also looking for 350 NA
05-10-2006, 09:19 AM
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RE: high reving NA setup
ORIGINAL: GSXRIntensity
I got a 68rwhp increase with my 4.10 in the back. It is doable, but next up on my list is a shortblock. My peak power is at 6100rpms, but it tapers off after that. I don't know if I am going to go w/a Vortech t-trim or not, but I'll probably do it lol
ORIGINAL: Supergreen
very realistic in my opinion. depending on the heads and cams ive seen a 60 hp increase. i think its doable. its good to see someone else looking for it the hard way. im also looking for 350 NA
very realistic in my opinion. depending on the heads and cams ive seen a 60 hp increase. i think its doable. its good to see someone else looking for it the hard way. im also looking for 350 NA
05-10-2006, 10:12 AM
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RE: high reving NA setup
ORIGINAL: Dragon02GT
You got 68 rwhp with gears???? HOw is that possible. Gears do not add any HP. If you got HP from gears it is because the dyno wasn't ran in the gear that has a 1:1 drive ratio. If you ran both dynos (before and after gears) in the same gear (i.e. 3rd gear) then I believe you would see more HP but this would not be correct because your drive ratio would not be 1:1 anymore with the 4.10's in the rear. Gears DO NOT add HP, they only get you into your powerband quicker.
ORIGINAL: GSXRIntensity
I got a 68rwhp increase with my 4.10 in the back. It is doable, but next up on my list is a shortblock. My peak power is at 6100rpms, but it tapers off after that. I don't know if I am going to go w/a Vortech t-trim or not, but I'll probably do it lol
ORIGINAL: Supergreen
very realistic in my opinion. depending on the heads and cams ive seen a 60 hp increase. i think its doable. its good to see someone else looking for it the hard way. im also looking for 350 NA
very realistic in my opinion. depending on the heads and cams ive seen a 60 hp increase. i think its doable. its good to see someone else looking for it the hard way. im also looking for 350 NA
05-10-2006, 10:15 AM
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RE: high reving NA setup
If N/A was the right way to get 350rwhp, why would Ford supercharge the 03/04 Cobra to compete?
Even Ford realized it was best to boost. And they have more than enough money to spend on a car...
Even Ford realized it was best to boost. And they have more than enough money to spend on a car...
05-10-2006, 12:54 PM
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RE: high reving NA setup
ORIGINAL: GSXRIntensity
I got a 68rwhp increase with my 4.10 in the back. It is doable, but next up on my list is a shortblock. My peak power is at 6100rpms, but it tapers off after that. I don't know if I am going to go w/a Vortech t-trim or not, but I'll probably do it lol
ORIGINAL: Supergreen
very realistic in my opinion. depending on the heads and cams ive seen a 60 hp increase. i think its doable. its good to see someone else looking for it the hard way. im also looking for 350 NA
very realistic in my opinion. depending on the heads and cams ive seen a 60 hp increase. i think its doable. its good to see someone else looking for it the hard way. im also looking for 350 NA
