valve seal job aborted
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valve seal job aborted
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well I"m pretty furious right now. I took off the valve covers and everything and as I'm startin to pump up the first cylinder with air, what to my surprise but I hear a nice loud "psssssssssssssss" coming from inside the engine. So my GD engine can't even hold 50-80 psi of a compressor. So fu** it. I'm about to put it all back together and say screw the valve seals and screw ressurecting this engine any furthur. I am feeling very disheartened by this car and losing all enthusiasm towards my mustang. I did a compression and leakdown test before and all was fine. Now for some reason my car decided to be an a$$.
Now I guess it's time to start saving for an engine... ::sigh::
Anyone else have projects go sour???
Oh yeah, ford instructional devices, alldata, and shopkey can all suck my di**. They all describe AND SHOW replacing these seals as a relatively simple task. Once you get in there, I KNOW that the only way to do the valve seals properly is to remove the heads and rebuild the heads. I am very good at doing engine work it's just that the way the 4.6L SOHC head is setup, it would be like cake to work on it out of the car but it's an absolute bi*** in the car.
SOOO i'm just gonna keep the oil full and wait until this engine gives up.
FUGGIN FORD!!! (sorry to ford enthusiasts) this is just very annoying as I had the makings of a great writeup going
anyone have any reccomendations for a good engine company? i don't want anything special other than an engine that can withstand a bit more boost than a stock block
well I"m pretty furious right now. I took off the valve covers and everything and as I'm startin to pump up the first cylinder with air, what to my surprise but I hear a nice loud "psssssssssssssss" coming from inside the engine. So my GD engine can't even hold 50-80 psi of a compressor. So fu** it. I'm about to put it all back together and say screw the valve seals and screw ressurecting this engine any furthur. I am feeling very disheartened by this car and losing all enthusiasm towards my mustang. I did a compression and leakdown test before and all was fine. Now for some reason my car decided to be an a$$.
Now I guess it's time to start saving for an engine... ::sigh::
Anyone else have projects go sour???
Oh yeah, ford instructional devices, alldata, and shopkey can all suck my di**. They all describe AND SHOW replacing these seals as a relatively simple task. Once you get in there, I KNOW that the only way to do the valve seals properly is to remove the heads and rebuild the heads. I am very good at doing engine work it's just that the way the 4.6L SOHC head is setup, it would be like cake to work on it out of the car but it's an absolute bi*** in the car.
SOOO i'm just gonna keep the oil full and wait until this engine gives up.
FUGGIN FORD!!! (sorry to ford enthusiasts) this is just very annoying as I had the makings of a great writeup going
anyone have any reccomendations for a good engine company? i don't want anything special other than an engine that can withstand a bit more boost than a stock block
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RE: valve seal job aborted
no dudes something is fuggled up inside my engine. Sorry I coudln't get the writeup. What happened is I had air directly into the cylinder both valves closed at TDC and it goes Pssssssss (sounds like coming from INSIDE the engine) and the compressor kept cycling so I give up. I know how this job is supposed to go and it's assuming your engine hasn't been beat to hell. I got screwed I guess that's what i get for getting a 100K+ mile mustang... ::sigh::
#6
RE: valve seal job aborted
ORIGINAL: monkeydude3
no dudes something is fuggled up inside my engine. Sorry I coudln't get the writeup. What happened is I had air directly into the cylinder both valves closed at TDC and it goes Pssssssss (sounds like coming from INSIDE the engine) and the compressor kept cycling so I give up. I know how this job is supposed to go and it's assuming your engine hasn't been beat to hell. I got screwed I guess that's what i get for getting a 100K+ mile mustang... ::sigh::
no dudes something is fuggled up inside my engine. Sorry I coudln't get the writeup. What happened is I had air directly into the cylinder both valves closed at TDC and it goes Pssssssss (sounds like coming from INSIDE the engine) and the compressor kept cycling so I give up. I know how this job is supposed to go and it's assuming your engine hasn't been beat to hell. I got screwed I guess that's what i get for getting a 100K+ mile mustang... ::sigh::
I might be able to drum one up for you from a buillit car. The guy wants 2500 bucks for the entire car cause it was wrecked. I was thinking of buying it and getting the seats/upper intake and a few other things off it.
What I really wanted to do though was buy it, get the stuff, put my intake on the engine and sell the engine/computer/harness to someone who had a NPI car and wanted to do a swap. Interested?
#8
RE: valve seal job aborted
2000GT4.6 I may be interested, let me know what you would want for it and if you would be in a hurry to unload it. I have a lot of other crap I gotta take care of
and yes I'm sure the valves were at TDC. as a matter of fact, on the cylinder I starteded on / attempted on the rocker arms were out! And see the valves stayed nice and shut with the compressed air, so I think my bottom end is fookled... and i just now realized my compression tester gauge has a one way valve in it so i probably THOUGHT the compression doesn't leak (SON OF A BI***)
it usually lets out good clouds on startup and that's about it. What gets me is the oil level goes down so fast
and yes I'm sure the valves were at TDC. as a matter of fact, on the cylinder I starteded on / attempted on the rocker arms were out! And see the valves stayed nice and shut with the compressed air, so I think my bottom end is fookled... and i just now realized my compression tester gauge has a one way valve in it so i probably THOUGHT the compression doesn't leak (SON OF A BI***)
it usually lets out good clouds on startup and that's about it. What gets me is the oil level goes down so fast
#9
RE: valve seal job aborted
Monkeydude,
I was looking foward to your write-up as my mine is consuming a bit of oil too.
You should look at doing another compression check to see if anything has changed.
If so, perhaps do a wet test. Try and dump some oil down the cyl.
If you get good compression with the oil, then you'll know its the rings.
Otherwise you may have a bad valve or head gasket, and that may be a good excuse to do a PI head swap.
I was searching the net for used 4.6 engines, as well as new crate motors.
Mine is running strong still but I'd love a fresher engine eventually.
I found a few 2004 motors with 15K and under miles for $1600 - in my area even...
For me anyway, I have never pulled the heads on a OHC engine, but have swapped a few engines in my day, and I'd rather just deal with pulling the entire engine (if I had a garage, which I don't).
Don't get discouraged, you can get through this.
Why not just dump some oil down the cyl and try it again?
I was looking foward to your write-up as my mine is consuming a bit of oil too.
You should look at doing another compression check to see if anything has changed.
If so, perhaps do a wet test. Try and dump some oil down the cyl.
If you get good compression with the oil, then you'll know its the rings.
Otherwise you may have a bad valve or head gasket, and that may be a good excuse to do a PI head swap.
I was searching the net for used 4.6 engines, as well as new crate motors.
Mine is running strong still but I'd love a fresher engine eventually.
I found a few 2004 motors with 15K and under miles for $1600 - in my area even...
For me anyway, I have never pulled the heads on a OHC engine, but have swapped a few engines in my day, and I'd rather just deal with pulling the entire engine (if I had a garage, which I don't).
Don't get discouraged, you can get through this.
Why not just dump some oil down the cyl and try it again?
#10
RE: valve seal job aborted
because I work a lot. I'm gonna head out a bit (my g/f's family invited me to this dinner party)
I'm gonna wait and see how my pay stabilizes with the new job and decide what I want to do.
I want to keep the car and buy a $500 honda accord or saturn for a second vehicle.
and if i do get a newer engine i'm probably gonna pay to have it done as time is getting slim for me
How much do shops charge average for an engine swap? like same for same? assuming I bring them the engine
I'm gonna wait and see how my pay stabilizes with the new job and decide what I want to do.
I want to keep the car and buy a $500 honda accord or saturn for a second vehicle.
and if i do get a newer engine i'm probably gonna pay to have it done as time is getting slim for me
How much do shops charge average for an engine swap? like same for same? assuming I bring them the engine