cams for Kennebell supercharger
#1
cams for Kennebell supercharger
I recently got an 04 gt and hopefully if i can ever sell my celica i want to supercharge my gt. Im probly gonna make around 6000 to 7000 then after i pay some things off ill have round 4000 to 5000. I want to buy cams now but with a completly stock gt and supercharging inmind can i even run better cams and if i can do i need cams that are boost specific or just some stage 1 cams or something?
#2
RE: cams for Kennebell supercharger
Well, if the car is stock, theres alot that you need to consider before even thinking about the cams and a supercharger. Full exhaust, rear end gears, Tb/Plenum (dont waste your time on a CAI if your getting supercharged), Suspension upgrades to get your power to the ground, and your gonna need some wider tires out back if you ever want to be able to use your first 2 gears. Also, with a supercharger plus all of the bolt ons, your gonna be around the limits of your stock engine. If you get a cam, then your definately gonna have to get forged internals... So your looking at ALOT more than 4-5grand right now.
EDIT: Clutch would probably be a good idea too.. Im sure i forgot some stuff.
EDIT: Clutch would probably be a good idea too.. Im sure i forgot some stuff.
#3
RE: cams for Kennebell supercharger
yeah... i only wanna run 6psi i figure thats enough to keep the insides safe. new rubber thats a deffinate. looking at new wheels/tires and springs/shocks currently. Kennebell has dyno charts with there supercharger at 6psi and its putting down 364rwhp on a stock gt i figure thats keeping the internals at or just above 400hp which is good right? ive priced pistons and rods but have no idea how much that stuff is to get installed. My main thing is could i run cams now that can be used for n/a then supercharging, but i guess after supercharging ill be pushing the limits eh?
#4
RE: cams for Kennebell supercharger
If your only gonna run 6psi, then the internals are fine. THe max for stock internals is 450 RWHP, so u can safely run anywhere between 400-440 rwhp, depending on how far you wanna push it. I would say with a Kenne Bell at 10, 430rwtq and 420 rwhp is plenty to make you happy on the streets. So, if your going to run something like 10 Psi, u need the intercooler, and with all the required supporting bolt ons, even without the cam, youll be pretty dam close to your engines limits. If your having everything installed, running 10 psi or more with forged internals and a cam, your looking at an EASY $10,000.
#5
RE: cams for Kennebell supercharger
ORIGINAL: Jskeezy84
yeah... i only wanna run 6psi i figure thats enough to keep the insides safe. new rubber thats a deffinate. looking at new wheels/tires and springs/shocks currently. Kennebell has dyno charts with there supercharger at 6psi and its putting down 364rwhp on a stock gt i figure thats keeping the internals at or just above 400hp which is good right? ive priced pistons and rods but have no idea how much that stuff is to get installed. My main thing is could i run cams now that can be used for n/a then supercharging, but i guess after supercharging ill be pushing the limits eh?
yeah... i only wanna run 6psi i figure thats enough to keep the insides safe. new rubber thats a deffinate. looking at new wheels/tires and springs/shocks currently. Kennebell has dyno charts with there supercharger at 6psi and its putting down 364rwhp on a stock gt i figure thats keeping the internals at or just above 400hp which is good right? ive priced pistons and rods but have no idea how much that stuff is to get installed. My main thing is could i run cams now that can be used for n/a then supercharging, but i guess after supercharging ill be pushing the limits eh?
#6
RE: cams for Kennebell supercharger
thanks! yeah i knew from the get go i was gonna spend some bucks. but i just got the car and like it alot so i know ill have it for awhile and will dump plenty in it. I just cant wait to sell my other car so i can get that supercharger, really pisses me off that stock these cars have like 240 rwhp
#7
RE: cams for Kennebell supercharger
ORIGINAL: dsg04gt
Well, if the car is stock, theres alot that you need to consider before even thinking about the cams and a supercharger. Full exhaust, rear end gears, Tb/Plenum (dont waste your time on a CAI if your getting supercharged), Suspension upgrades to get your power to the ground, and your gonna need some wider tires out back if you ever want to be able to use your first 2 gears. Also, with a supercharger plus all of the bolt ons, your gonna be around the limits of your stock engine. If you get a cam, then your definately gonna have to get forged internals... So your looking at ALOT more than 4-5grand right now.
EDIT: Clutch would probably be a good idea too.. Im sure i forgot some stuff.
Well, if the car is stock, theres alot that you need to consider before even thinking about the cams and a supercharger. Full exhaust, rear end gears, Tb/Plenum (dont waste your time on a CAI if your getting supercharged), Suspension upgrades to get your power to the ground, and your gonna need some wider tires out back if you ever want to be able to use your first 2 gears. Also, with a supercharger plus all of the bolt ons, your gonna be around the limits of your stock engine. If you get a cam, then your definately gonna have to get forged internals... So your looking at ALOT more than 4-5grand right now.
EDIT: Clutch would probably be a good idea too.. Im sure i forgot some stuff.
ORIGINAL: dsg04gt
If your only gonna run 6psi, then the internals are fine. THe max for stock internals is 450 RWHP, so u can safely run anywhere between 400-440 rwhp, depending on how far you wanna push it. I would say with a Kenne Bell at 10, 430rwtq and 420 rwhp is plenty to make you happy on the streets. So, if your going to run something like 10 Psi, u need the intercooler, and with all the required supporting bolt ons, even without the cam, youll be pretty dam close to your engines limits. If your having everything installed, running 10 psi or more with forged internals and a cam, your looking at an EASY $10,000.
If your only gonna run 6psi, then the internals are fine. THe max for stock internals is 450 RWHP, so u can safely run anywhere between 400-440 rwhp, depending on how far you wanna push it. I would say with a Kenne Bell at 10, 430rwtq and 420 rwhp is plenty to make you happy on the streets. So, if your going to run something like 10 Psi, u need the intercooler, and with all the required supporting bolt ons, even without the cam, youll be pretty dam close to your engines limits. If your having everything installed, running 10 psi or more with forged internals and a cam, your looking at an EASY $10,000.
#8
RE: cams for Kennebell supercharger
i have the KB non-intercooled at 6# of boost ..my mods are...70mm t/b,full exhuast,CAI-fender mount,Iridium plugs and stock gears. after about a week i wanted the intercooled at 9-10# of boost. so, if i were you, i would skip the cams(for now) and just get the intercooled with @ 9-10#s. and if you are running stock gears look into some 3:55s or at most 3:73s with the KB. this should keep you pretty happy for a while.just PM me if you have any questions.
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